NO prob, but you have not answered a single ? I have asked.
What type of dyno were you dynoing it on?? Stock air box or NO? What a/f were ya running? Stock Injectors? Boost a pump in it? I think I read where Kendall said it knocked a catylatic converter out of it. I take it your runnning it in the 10's for air fuel with that much compresion and yes the cats will not live long like that. This car probably would not be safe with a texas mile style pull with this much power and stock fuel system. Do you agree? These are great numbers no doubt but fill us in on the rest of the info.
I also see where Kendall is coming from, when Ed posted these numbers, there was no description to as what was done to the motor, besides you chiming in and saying the Gal had been massaged. (Btw gal and these cars really don't fit well together) Just saying. So this leads the undeducated people to believe there is Magic Vodoo going on @ da. When all the power really came from more compression, cams and some head work along with a fatter a/f so it lives on pump gas and pulling a few degrees of timing. Not everyone has paid attention to Ed's earlier build thread, nor was the compression even talked about that I can remember in it. I think Kendall is just trying to make everyone on the same page. As for those who are not in the KNOW on what the internal work will do to increase power, will think that da is a super hero for making that power with that low of boost when that is not the case. The internal engine mods are 95% of the reason for the increase which you did have a part in as you built it.
Like i said early, Dynojet in my mind is the industry standard in hp figures. Mustang dyno, superflow, and all the other ones out there are usually off in numbers compared to dynojet's. You can dyno on a 224 dyno jet and travel across town and dyno on a 248 dyno jet and they with be within a few numbers. Heffner uses dynojet, torrie uses dyno jet. I believe that Soroush's guys use dyno jet, hennessy has dynojet, Kumar's guy has dyno jet. I have a dyno jet. By your dyno graph it looks as you are using something different so WHAT IS IT?
Ed's gal has been on a Dyna Pak, SuperFlow, Dyna Jet, and this latest session was on a Dyno Com. I too like the Dyna Pak and when using others I make like an onion skin and overlay them and for my sake “only” and I see an average; remember I shared I do "not" solicited dyno charts as anything more than interesting because it is only “one” (IMO small) portion of the tuning process and yet in this case Ed presented it because he had been called into question in an earlier thread and he was excited. I had no intention of participating in the thread and yet when some of the comments were made and Ed was unable to reply I felt that I had to. As for what dynos others use; I can only share that Torrie typically uses a Dyna Jet and not a Dyna Pak.
The air box is as OEM
The injectors are OEM as is the entire fuel system at this time and it is because of this that she is "not" prepared to run a mile event at this power level because she would run out of fuel; I already stated this. In fact at the last mile event such happened as documented by our data log which is what took out the cats; they were melted. FYI she no longer has cats.
The fuel requirements for gear blasts, road course activities, drag racing, and the mile are all very different but then you already are fully aware of this.
As for filling in all of the blanks; I have shared openly and will answer questions however I am not going to draft and post a build sheet; this has been a work in progress with her now having a Bryant crank, JE 10.1 flat top pistons with the tops ceramic coated and the skirts Teflon coated, Total Seal stainless rings, a different and stronger set of Manley rods, custom cams, custom cam chains as stated along with custom tensioners and “yes” the primary chain is OEM as there are no custom chains available and this one and yet it has not proven to be an issue. There was much massaging throughout as this project has progressed over time and yet I need to make clear again; hardware and internal massaging alone will not create these results. Having shared this I remain certain that this is not the end of the road for Ed and his gal but rather one more stop along the way as it has been a long journey and we expect it to continue.
Once can compile the create array of hardware and in the end have little more than a wonderful array of hardware, one can massage and massage only to find that which is being done to be counterproductive, and then there is the tuning; “NOT” on the dyno playing the let’s get a number game but rather that which it take to create a machine that is usable in the real world and not simply WOT.
When drag racing on an extreme level at the tree would be two gals often with hearts nearly the same based on the hardware build sheets and yet one was a rocket and one a bomb. It is more often the incremental differences that would set one successfully apart from the bomb and furthermore experience and the willingness to step out of the proverbial box which means taking risks is a key component.
If it was easy and inexpensive everyone would consider it however it is not but then you know this as well too.
Other forum members such as Fubar, Mullet, Soroush, Torrie, have all stepped out of the proverbial box with at time great success and at other times something less and yet through it all there has always been a supportive audience that was able to vicariously participate in their project and in many cases learn something however for whatever reason this thread took on a different tone. I suspect that the only reason that Ed is having a hard time with this thread is because it is associated with the “Shadowman”
The thread was a simple sharing of Ed’s present dyno sheet and it was never intended on being a classroom and yet “all” of you know that I am only a phone call away.
Thank you all for the time spent reading the thread and your participation within it.
Takes care
Shadowman
