1434gt
GT Owner
- Aug 29, 2006
- 233
the right way to race a fgt vs z06 it is not 2000 or 3000 rpm ,so in your books the zo6 is faster in a straight line ,next time you race your zo6 vs gt bring your gt @4500 rpm and report back
The Mighty GT-R: A Legitimate Threat to GT Supremecy?
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the right way to race a fgt vs z06 it is not 2000 or 3000 rpm ,so in your books the zo6 is faster in a straight line ,next time you race your zo6 vs gt bring your gt @4500 rpm and report back
on d bit
Well-known member
I raced a ZO6 in one of my GTRs. The GTR left it at the light like it was standing still. I do like z06 corvettes. A little modding and they can be very fun!
are you saying a gtr is faster than 11.3 @ 127 in the 1/4? i have yet to see any evidence on this. granted i have yet to look for specific performance stats on the gtr. but from my original reading on the new gtr this was a car that weighed more and had less rwhp than the z. if this is the case how is it faster?
do the new gtr come with launch control? and is the warranty still viable if you use it?
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
From edmonds.com:
"Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. Keep your foot pinned, and after another tap on the upshift paddle it will clear the quarter-mile in 11.6 seconds at more than 120 mph."
Kirby Vieira
GT Owner/B.o.D
It was a comprehensive test and I'm reporting back with some more detail. Neither of the Z06's were ever dyno'd so maybe they were the most powerful ones ever to roll off the assembly line 5 months apart. It was done once for a specific purpose, and I was astounded by the results because earlier seat-of-the-pants feelings of both the other driver and me were the opposite of the results. The Z06/FGT runs were side by side from 2,000 and 3000 rpm to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. The purpose was to eliminate driver skill and just see if one accelerated faster. It was very close in 1st, noticeable in 2nd and even more noticeable in 3rd. But in every case, as the rpm increased, so did the separation of the Z06 from the FGT. Not a runaway, but obvious, particularly in 3rd. I'm not a Z06 lover, I'm a FGT lover, but posted this personal experience because Shelby's post about his GTR running away from a Z06 registered very high on my BS Meter, based upon personal experiences with Z06's and my expectations of the outcome of such an event. :cheers
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HHGT
Guest
I will second the BS Meter. This whole GTR thing really gets on my nerves. I know a guy that raced a Z06 with his Suzuki and ran away from it.
I feel like buying a GTR at the auction (They're selling for around $65/70K) and taking it to the Yuma Proving Grounds and use it as Target Practice, may be even plant an IED in it and watch it blow up to smithereens... Cars for Bombers Program:biggrin
Fubar
Totally ****** Up
I've never been a fan of the GTR. As many say, once you can get past the looks of it, it's an impressive car. I don't think the transmission debacle deserves the attention it gets. I suspect that if I cared enough to research the problem, I would be able to argue why Nissan did what they did... but I don't care enough.
The GTR will fade from the automotive limelight much like the Z06 has.
c'est la vie
The GTR will fade from the automotive limelight much like the Z06 has.
c'est la vie
cobrar1339
GT Owner
Both the C6Z06 and the GTR are worthy opponents if you look at it like that. And both are far more practical thean the GT. But people that buy a GT, Original Cobra, Enzo, Daytona Coupe and Original GT40 are not worried about practical, are they ? So that comparison in not valid IMO.
My fantasy experience with the Z in roll ons is that from 60ish the Z pulled my stock GT till about 90 and it was over. The Gearing in the Z has the edge. I was rolling on from 3rd, not a good place for the GT at 60mph. Tried in second an it was a different story. The GT has to be driven differently as one noted with a 4,500 launch for a drag comparison.
Driving the C6Z it just feels faster. That comes from the sound, vibrations or a Front engine car IMO. Hell , my C5 Z felt faster than my GT. It slings you back in the seat and the front end raises, the long tubes making music, revs are quick. You can feel the G's.
The GT is more like a Rocket Sled ...it's on rails. The front does not lift, the noise is behind you and the rush is a steady even force that is so smooth that mid triple digits and beyond come without any drama at all. You really don't realize how fast you are going till you check. The steering feel is near perfect, no outside vibes , just the wheel and the road.
All the storied comparisons on the street are not what I would call Apples to Apples, in driver skill, preparation, looking over your shoulder for good reason,etc.
IMO The Z is just plain brutal for a NA push rod motor. Kudos to GM for making simple big power. Just Cubes and weight mgmt. Nuff said, the best sports car value period.
The GTR at higher roll speeds I think would lose it's edge. But I have not tried this in my fantasy. The ones I have encountered on the street are more pre-occupie with taking pics of my car from the iphone than trying to challenge me. The GT is the favorite car of the CEO of the Gran Turismo series. He even posted a test of the two and the GT still wins. But the skille driver suggests he would rather have the GTR as a daily driver. What a Dork.
The GT stands alone in the styling and Platform worlds. There is no other car like it in the world, period, it stirs souls, gives you goose bumps, makes guys driving cars that are twice as expensive jealous. Set out a row of hot wheels and the kid picks the GTR...not. How many multiple GTR owers are there?
Is was also born with the the ability to mod simply and to ungodly HP numbers. Two Injectors per cyl, geez. A fuel system and bottom end that was made for not 550 hp but to satisfy to nearly 1,000 HP or more.
What were those GT team members thinking?. How about evolution ?, the foundation is there. I can't believe it didn't cross their minds. Pure Genius and fore thought, knowing the run was 2 years. We should be grateful. How would the 2007,2008...2009,2010...2011 models have evolved, if Fred and the boys had their way.
Gen 2 - Could have made production :thumbsup
Ford Racing Flash and Pulley, ....bamm 100 more RWHP Net 700ish
Availability of stickier tires .....Ah Oh 0-60 in 3.0
Would we be seeing 10 sec quarters?
Kip's Console Cubby
Free Flyers boost gauge
Lighter Exhaust Can
Gen 3 - More time to think this far out and test. :banana
Gen2 Blower
Gears
Re-Designed Brake Scoops and Cooling pack
Stability control - given the mortality rate - logical move and dev for other models in the Ford family.
Gen 4 - GT goes Green :biggrin
Eco Boost? - TT
SMG
Hybrid
Many Forum Members own these evolved beasts today. Yet we talk about the 2005 numbers. Perhaps we should be testing these combos to see how they perform.
I think it would paint a significantly different picture. Would be nice to see this in print with the big 3 combos. The Bar would look much different. The car was built from scratch in a year. Imagine what 4 years of additional development would look like for the greatest American Platform ever.
My fantasy experience with the Z in roll ons is that from 60ish the Z pulled my stock GT till about 90 and it was over. The Gearing in the Z has the edge. I was rolling on from 3rd, not a good place for the GT at 60mph. Tried in second an it was a different story. The GT has to be driven differently as one noted with a 4,500 launch for a drag comparison.
Driving the C6Z it just feels faster. That comes from the sound, vibrations or a Front engine car IMO. Hell , my C5 Z felt faster than my GT. It slings you back in the seat and the front end raises, the long tubes making music, revs are quick. You can feel the G's.
The GT is more like a Rocket Sled ...it's on rails. The front does not lift, the noise is behind you and the rush is a steady even force that is so smooth that mid triple digits and beyond come without any drama at all. You really don't realize how fast you are going till you check. The steering feel is near perfect, no outside vibes , just the wheel and the road.
All the storied comparisons on the street are not what I would call Apples to Apples, in driver skill, preparation, looking over your shoulder for good reason,etc.
IMO The Z is just plain brutal for a NA push rod motor. Kudos to GM for making simple big power. Just Cubes and weight mgmt. Nuff said, the best sports car value period.
The GTR at higher roll speeds I think would lose it's edge. But I have not tried this in my fantasy. The ones I have encountered on the street are more pre-occupie with taking pics of my car from the iphone than trying to challenge me. The GT is the favorite car of the CEO of the Gran Turismo series. He even posted a test of the two and the GT still wins. But the skille driver suggests he would rather have the GTR as a daily driver. What a Dork.
The GT stands alone in the styling and Platform worlds. There is no other car like it in the world, period, it stirs souls, gives you goose bumps, makes guys driving cars that are twice as expensive jealous. Set out a row of hot wheels and the kid picks the GTR...not. How many multiple GTR owers are there?
Is was also born with the the ability to mod simply and to ungodly HP numbers. Two Injectors per cyl, geez. A fuel system and bottom end that was made for not 550 hp but to satisfy to nearly 1,000 HP or more.
What were those GT team members thinking?. How about evolution ?, the foundation is there. I can't believe it didn't cross their minds. Pure Genius and fore thought, knowing the run was 2 years. We should be grateful. How would the 2007,2008...2009,2010...2011 models have evolved, if Fred and the boys had their way.
Gen 2 - Could have made production :thumbsup
Ford Racing Flash and Pulley, ....bamm 100 more RWHP Net 700ish
Availability of stickier tires .....Ah Oh 0-60 in 3.0
Would we be seeing 10 sec quarters?
Kip's Console Cubby
Free Flyers boost gauge
Lighter Exhaust Can
Gen 3 - More time to think this far out and test. :banana
Gen2 Blower
Gears
Re-Designed Brake Scoops and Cooling pack
Stability control - given the mortality rate - logical move and dev for other models in the Ford family.
Gen 4 - GT goes Green :biggrin
Eco Boost? - TT
SMG
Hybrid
Many Forum Members own these evolved beasts today. Yet we talk about the 2005 numbers. Perhaps we should be testing these combos to see how they perform.
I think it would paint a significantly different picture. Would be nice to see this in print with the big 3 combos. The Bar would look much different. The car was built from scratch in a year. Imagine what 4 years of additional development would look like for the greatest American Platform ever.
Joehand1
Tungsten GT Owner
Think 850 hp with traction and stability control.
Rear view camera
GPS
Better tires
2009 GT 0-60 in 3 seconds
Top Speed 230..,
Rear view camera
GPS
Better tires
2009 GT 0-60 in 3 seconds
Top Speed 230..,
The GTR looks better then the GT to a large segment of the intended (young) audience. I could never understand why someone would want a four door civic with a coffee can on the end of the muffler over a mustang GT that was faster, but today's kids, what can you say? So the GTR is their super car. I think it's funny everyone talks about mine is faster when you can go to any number of tracks for "driving instruction" and actually see. All of today's cars are so close the guy with the better tires and less fear of hitting walls will win.
BlackICE
GT Owner
With the exception of 2 things on the like it sounds like you are describing my FGT! :biggrin
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Joehand1
Tungsten GT Owner
cobrar1339
GT Owner
People in Mags say it drives itself. :bs. Plenty of better cars have been humbled by a marginally experienced driver. It's not as easy as it looks, you have it right "FEAR". Get me any first time track warrior and they can be roughed up by a 5.0 Mustang 240hp track car. The same applies to the GT. A good driver will take a marginal driver, down many HP in a lesser car. Talk is Cheap.
People and Teens in General tend to play down what they can't afford. Almost sure they will never have a chance at it....Justifying why it's not practical. One member has a tag line in the signature that fits as good advice "Work hard, grow rich , annoy a liberal". How many of us drove crap in high school, but still had the dream. I think everyone on this forum fits that description. The GT is meant to be Excess, a 3rd, 4th , 12th car, we all get it.
A block party at my place had every testerone filled pubescent boy drooling over two GT's in the driveway. Asking tons of questions, wanting to hear it over and over again. Even Mom's checking it out wanting to sit in it. There is hope.
My daughter has a pic of her by the two GTs on her facebook page. She dosen't just get asked out, she gets marriage proposals. She leaves it up cause she thinks it's fun, tosses copies of the comments on my desk. One sent a Resume for marriage with a pic of his 03 Cobra. :thumbsup. That one will have a GT someday.
Set them side by side and any boy ooging the GTR, well it just won't happen IMO. Yes there are the few corrupted by rice rocket video games and the BMW SSM conspiracy. If they stand their, they stand alone. The girls will still standing next to the GT.
Grab a drink and....Feel the Passion in these older clips. They should still put a smile on your face. Share them with the neighbor kid and save his taste and manhood before it's too late. A couple are pretty rare clips.
Red Car Warning !:cheers
Ordered a GT
http://www.bbcamerica.com/video/topgear.jsp?bclid=31443574001&bctid=30090022001
GT Track time beats the 360 Challenge an top speed vs. CGT
http://www.bbcamerica.com/video/topgear.jsp?bclid=31443574001&bctid=30089519001
Intro the GT40 Concept
http://www.bbcamerica.com/video/topgear.jsp?bclid=31443574001&bctid=30097982001
Our Friends Mark Mc Gown, Kip Ewing, Fred Goodnow, Bill Ford
http://turbo.discovery.com/videos/a...ndefined&lineupId=undefined&titleId=247719613
Texas Mile run at 203mph
http://www.truveo.com/supercars-exposed-ford-gt/id/2076364179
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HHGT
Guest
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
AtomicGT
GT Owner
Very little interest in Foreign metal. That's me, build date for my GT500 is 09-21 we'll see what happens.
Some of us are just not Nissan People
Some of us are just not Nissan People
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soroush
Ford Gt Owner
- Aug 8, 2007
- 5,256
My daughter has a pic of her by the two GTs on her facebook page. She dosen't just get asked out, she gets marriage proposals. She leaves it up cause she thinks it's fun, tosses copies of the comments on my desk. One sent a Resume for marriage with a pic of his 03 Cobra. :thumbsup. That one will have a GT someday.
just make sure he doesnt get the GT by marrying your daughter:biggrin
just make sure he doesnt get the GT by marrying your daughter:biggrin
soroush
Ford Gt Owner
- Aug 8, 2007
- 5,256
well if you had read the whole thread from the start it would have been obvious:lol
Stef
GT Owner
Man, you sure are right about the girls and GT's. I have a very very long driveway in front, I get a lot of teasing, everyone says its not a driveway but a landing strip, and a vehicle parked at the end should not really get noticed much because its sits so far from the street.
Anyway one afternoon/early eve I had my Tungsten beauty parked out back, I was off to the side slipping an ice tea admiring her good looks when a small group of young females came walking with there pet toy pooches. One of them noticed the car and they all came to a stop, and began to stare and google. They could not see me, and they just lingered there staring at my car. I could see there was much comment, and I could not hear what they where saying, but one of my family in a front room with the window open could hear every word.
The word Sex and Hot came up in there chatter more than once, and one said if sex had four wheels thats what it would look like. Maybe at that moment I should have fired her up and rolled down the drive to be mobbed like a rock star getting out of his limo.:lol