Wally's custom harness bars, worth their weight in gold. My special set crafted in black decadence...
Preparing for 185+ mph speeds safely...
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My son witnesses the fitment of these custom components:
Box 'o restraints:
I believe the finished result speaks for itself:
Please note: I am not an expert or authority on event requirements, recommendations, or restraint systems, and this information is for illustration only of one possible option, or opinion, and is not intended to be the definitive answer to safety concerns.
Box 'o restraints:
I believe the finished result speaks for itself:
Please note: I am not an expert or authority on event requirements, recommendations, or restraint systems, and this information is for illustration only of one possible option, or opinion, and is not intended to be the definitive answer to safety concerns.
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cobrar1339
GT Owner
Ok Guys ...No Worries
I will be out of town for a couple weeks , but will collect the list info and reply to all. I have quite a few PM's and am getting ready for a board meeting monday. I will reply as I have time this eve and next week.
No need to pay till it's all shipped out. Would rather not send the stuff one at a time if more than one item is needed. There are some good savings in shipping if I can put all the stuff together.
Plenty of Bars in Stock, just not been advertising or active lately with the real job in the way.
Here is what I have available:
Harness Bars - In Stock
Belt Clips - I have 10 sets right now and am having more cut next week. These are not the BK Clips, these are heavy duty, and designed for the GT. They are Driver / Pass specific. As Shadowman mentioned you can swing them out of the way and use you OEM belts. You will not know they are there unless you want to.
Belt Sets - In Stock . Also comes with a bag to store the belts in if you prefer to take them out of the car between events. The bag will also fit behind the seats.
Fire Ext Brackets - Low stock about 6 will run some more based on requests. Takes a couple weeks. Has every thing you need, easy Install.
Ti Shims - In Stock
Roundel Kits - In Stock, also a couple OEM Heritage number sets left. Will see about doing something inexpensive , but nice looking for the event as the cars require numbers.
There are a few other items as well, but this thread seams to be focused on the Comp Set Ups and Track gear.
From What I understand the Texas Mile is a NASA event. With TIme Trials rules for saftey equipment. This is the same as most open track requirements.
Here what I believe is required assuming they are still running NASA rules for the event, unless we have an exemption of some sort:
Helmet - Check Snell rating I believe it's now 2000 vs. 1995 rated, but for time trials they had it at Snell 1995 for awhile.
6 Point Harness - I only sell this set up - some have mentioned they saw a four point version of it. That is because the crotch belt was not clipped in for the pic. See SYCO GT's pics they are representative.
Gloves - Any leather glove or a rcing glove leather and nomex- No Nylon
2.5lb Fire Extinguisher - Safecraft bottles meet this spec if you already have one. And they look outstanding. If you have the halon system for the engine bay, that does not qualify as you do not have a spray head in the cockpit.
Fire Ext Bracket mount - I have these as well. They are different than the early onles with just two holes. These have a track cut in them so you can mount the assy forward and use the space behind the rear seat or adjust so the seat is all the way back. Wrench required and provided.
Driver Apparel - Same as Time trials or Open track. Leather top shoes, not nylon. Tennis shoes are fine, but must be leather top.
Long Sleeve cotton Shirt
Cotton Pants
Cotton Undies - But never had anyone check :biggrin
Why no nylon or ployester?- In a fire it melts and the material will burn into your skin. Cotton burns on top of the skin. Nomex is not supposed to burn itself, but that does not protect your skin fom cooking under it.
Once you have this gear you should have no issue running any open track event in the country. NHRA howevr is a different story, based on how fast you plan to go. :bs
I will be out of town for a couple weeks , but will collect the list info and reply to all. I have quite a few PM's and am getting ready for a board meeting monday. I will reply as I have time this eve and next week.
No need to pay till it's all shipped out. Would rather not send the stuff one at a time if more than one item is needed. There are some good savings in shipping if I can put all the stuff together.
Plenty of Bars in Stock, just not been advertising or active lately with the real job in the way.
Here is what I have available:
Harness Bars - In Stock
Belt Clips - I have 10 sets right now and am having more cut next week. These are not the BK Clips, these are heavy duty, and designed for the GT. They are Driver / Pass specific. As Shadowman mentioned you can swing them out of the way and use you OEM belts. You will not know they are there unless you want to.
Belt Sets - In Stock . Also comes with a bag to store the belts in if you prefer to take them out of the car between events. The bag will also fit behind the seats.
Fire Ext Brackets - Low stock about 6 will run some more based on requests. Takes a couple weeks. Has every thing you need, easy Install.
Ti Shims - In Stock
Roundel Kits - In Stock, also a couple OEM Heritage number sets left. Will see about doing something inexpensive , but nice looking for the event as the cars require numbers.
There are a few other items as well, but this thread seams to be focused on the Comp Set Ups and Track gear.
From What I understand the Texas Mile is a NASA event. With TIme Trials rules for saftey equipment. This is the same as most open track requirements.
Here what I believe is required assuming they are still running NASA rules for the event, unless we have an exemption of some sort:
Helmet - Check Snell rating I believe it's now 2000 vs. 1995 rated, but for time trials they had it at Snell 1995 for awhile.
6 Point Harness - I only sell this set up - some have mentioned they saw a four point version of it. That is because the crotch belt was not clipped in for the pic. See SYCO GT's pics they are representative.
Gloves - Any leather glove or a rcing glove leather and nomex- No Nylon
2.5lb Fire Extinguisher - Safecraft bottles meet this spec if you already have one. And they look outstanding. If you have the halon system for the engine bay, that does not qualify as you do not have a spray head in the cockpit.
Fire Ext Bracket mount - I have these as well. They are different than the early onles with just two holes. These have a track cut in them so you can mount the assy forward and use the space behind the rear seat or adjust so the seat is all the way back. Wrench required and provided.
Driver Apparel - Same as Time trials or Open track. Leather top shoes, not nylon. Tennis shoes are fine, but must be leather top.
Long Sleeve cotton Shirt
Cotton Pants
Cotton Undies - But never had anyone check :biggrin
Why no nylon or ployester?- In a fire it melts and the material will burn into your skin. Cotton burns on top of the skin. Nomex is not supposed to burn itself, but that does not protect your skin fom cooking under it.
Once you have this gear you should have no issue running any open track event in the country. NHRA howevr is a different story, based on how fast you plan to go. :bs
AlohaGT
GT Owner
Mullet
FORD GT OWNER
the Mile did not require gloves, long sleeve shirts or 6 point harnesses in March.
Here is what the Mile people looked for.......
Helmet meeting the "2000" requirement and a fire extinguisher.
Here is what the Mile people looked for.......
Helmet meeting the "2000" requirement and a fire extinguisher.
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I have read some comment that 4-6 point harnesses are not recommended in cars without rolls bars, as it prevents one from sliding downward in a possible rollover, and thus rests 'quite a bit' of weight on one's head/neck.
For someone particularly tall, whose helmet already more or less touches the roof, I wonder if it should be avoided and stick with traditional factory belt?
Thanks
For someone particularly tall, whose helmet already more or less touches the roof, I wonder if it should be avoided and stick with traditional factory belt?
Thanks
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Mark06GT
GT Owner
BlackICE
GT Owner
- Aug 25, 2006
- 4,436
Great information
I have installed several of these systems and they look wnderful and fit perfectly.
All the best
Shadowman
I remember seeing that information also. I believe that the rigidity of the GT frame overhead minimizes this concern.
Swift 27
New member
Derry
GT Owner
In this thread tires and tire pressure have been mentioned several times. I am very concerned about age of the tires. I have not been able to locate a set of stock Goodyears that is new. Most have date codes that are at least 4 years old now. 200 MPH on 4 or 5 year old rubber seems risky but I am not a tire expert.
Derry
Derry
TallCarGuy
GT Owner
Derry,
You are correct to be concerned about high speeds and old "new" tires. I have been investigating automobile accidents as a forensic consultant (expert witness) for almost 30 years. I have seen many accidents caused by new looking but old tires coming apart at highway speeds.
For very high speed driving most Open Road Racing groups require that the tires be four years old or newer. Since Goodyear has chosen not to build any new GT tires since their original build, I would suggest using the appropriate sized Bridgestone tires that many of the Forum members recommend for street use and Hoosier R6 tires for track or Open Road Racing.
Richard Hille
7 Time USAS 200 MPH Club Member
Hille Racing, Inc.
The GT School
You are correct to be concerned about high speeds and old "new" tires. I have been investigating automobile accidents as a forensic consultant (expert witness) for almost 30 years. I have seen many accidents caused by new looking but old tires coming apart at highway speeds.
For very high speed driving most Open Road Racing groups require that the tires be four years old or newer. Since Goodyear has chosen not to build any new GT tires since their original build, I would suggest using the appropriate sized Bridgestone tires that many of the Forum members recommend for street use and Hoosier R6 tires for track or Open Road Racing.
Richard Hille
7 Time USAS 200 MPH Club Member
Hille Racing, Inc.
The GT School
Derry
GT Owner
I have read good things on the Bridgestones, but they are rated with a Y speed rating which is up to 186 MPH vs the Goodyears being ZR rated for over 186 MPH. Again I am not an expert but is there a realistic difference in technology between the two?
Derry
Derry
TallCarGuy
GT Owner
Derry,
The ZR rating is for any tire rated to over 149 MPH. The (Y) rating, not the Y rating, is for tires capable of over 186 MPH. The specific tire capability is only available from the manufacturer. I believe the Bridgestones that our Forum members are recommending are tires used on other Supercars which likely are rated to over 200 MPH. I'll have to do some checking and I'll post what I find. I intend to replace my Goodyears with the Bridgestones and I already use the Hoosiers for speed events. [ I just looked at the Tire Rack info. on the Bridgestone Scuderia tire we can use on the rear and although the designation is Y in the listing the photograph of the tire shows it is a (Y). I'm still looking for the front tires.] [It appears that the appropriate front tire is the Potenza RE050A in size 255/40R18 (95Y) which should work quite well with all of our stock wheels and anti-lock brakes.]
Richard Hille
The GT School
The ZR rating is for any tire rated to over 149 MPH. The (Y) rating, not the Y rating, is for tires capable of over 186 MPH. The specific tire capability is only available from the manufacturer. I believe the Bridgestones that our Forum members are recommending are tires used on other Supercars which likely are rated to over 200 MPH. I'll have to do some checking and I'll post what I find. I intend to replace my Goodyears with the Bridgestones and I already use the Hoosiers for speed events. [ I just looked at the Tire Rack info. on the Bridgestone Scuderia tire we can use on the rear and although the designation is Y in the listing the photograph of the tire shows it is a (Y). I'm still looking for the front tires.] [It appears that the appropriate front tire is the Potenza RE050A in size 255/40R18 (95Y) which should work quite well with all of our stock wheels and anti-lock brakes.]
Richard Hille
The GT School
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Derry
GT Owner
Thanks Richard, re-reading the rating site at Tire Rack again I see you are quite correct. I did not previously understand the Y vs (Y) designation.
Derry
Derry