Usama bin ladin is dead!


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Empty Pockets

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I have seen much worst places in Palo Alto CA selling for a million plus!

http://www.mlslistings.com/1151-MIDDLEFIELD-RD-Palo-Alto-CA~i19$1026071$RES

http://www.mlslistings.com/826-BOYCE-AV-Palo-Alto-CA~i19$1026602$RES

http://www.mlslistings.com/1030-MOFFETT-CI-Palo-Alto-CA~i19$1020180$RES

Of course the neighborhood is much better, you don't have to worry about being surrounded by terrorist.

location, location, location!


"826 BOYCE AV, Palo Alto, CA 94301
Offered at: $1,199,000 — Active

Opportunity to get into a great neighborhood in Palo Alto! Fix up or tear down and build your dream house! Hardwood floors in living and dining room. Needs complete renovation. DO NOT WALK ON DECK;many boards are deteriorated and unsafe. Great for builders or handy homeowners!!"


I don't care in WHAT neighborhood a place like this is located, or how much money a buyer may have - THIS is ridiculous.
 

Kayvan

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I love these guys, "79 commandos and one dog landed"

You gotta love that Commando that said "I am taking my canine"...and they said "done"

My cousin is a Lt. Col. / DVM Veterinarian in Army and selects all military combat canines from Germany.

Hope his guy made the mission and all the canine companions help the troops stay safe.

:usa
 

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Daily Mail article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Laden-dead-Obama-took-16-hours-make-mind.html) states it took Pres. Obama 16 HOURS to make up his mind on whether to pursue Osama. 16 hours??? WTF? It shouldn't have taken 5 minutes.
 

BlackICE

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"826 BOYCE AV, Palo Alto, CA 94301
Offered at: $1,199,000 — Active

Opportunity to get into a great neighborhood in Palo Alto! Fix up or tear down and build your dream house! Hardwood floors in living and dining room. Needs complete renovation. DO NOT WALK ON DECK;many boards are deteriorated and unsafe. Great for builders or handy homeowners!!"


I don't care in WHAT neighborhood a place like this is located, or how much money a buyer may have - THIS is ridiculous.

Welcome to nutty CA!

You can assume that is the lot's value and the buyer will just bulldoze the house and build something new. Just think of the pleasure you will have owning that lot and paying
$12,000+ for property tax each year for a house you don't want to live in!
 
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My own opinion is there were really only 3: 1 - he had to be buried within 24 hrs, 2 - as I understand it, no Muslim country asked would accept his remains, and 3 - 'pretty hard to erect a shrine to this puke out at sea later on.
 

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This article go my attention, because I was stationed on the USS Carl Vinson 1983-1985. I was telling people at my office yesterday they would occasionally burry people at sea. I had no idea at the time that Bin Laden was also buried from the Carl Vinson.
 
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This article go my attention, because I was stationed on the USS Carl Vinson 1983-1985. I was telling people at my office yesterday they would occasionally burry people at sea. I had no idea at the time that Bin Laden was also buried from the Carl Vinson.

My C4ISR software, Composeable ForceNet was installed on the USS Carl Vinson in 2003 and is still operational today. I spent some time on USS John C. Stennis (CVN-74), got lost on my first day.
 

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My C4ISR software, Composeable ForceNet was installed on the USS Carl Vinson in 2003 and is still operational today. I spent some time on USS John C. Stennis (CVN-74), got lost on my first day.

That is cool. I arrived on the Carl Vinson on a jet from Diego Garcia. I went to the dental department and checked in. At the end of the work shift everyone headed to enlisted and officer dining, and I was completely lost. Fortunately, once you learn the numbering system it gets easier to find one's way around.

I recall on the 1MC later on, hearing a number of "bells" followed by an announcement of "prepare to burry the dead". After hearing this several times I inquired what that was all about. I think that if you are a navy veteran you can get buried at sea. Usually it was ashes. I considered doing this myself, but not sure I want to swim with Bin Laden :lol
 
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White House struggles to get story right on raid

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16026/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=k21QfjHn

Thankfully, Seal Team VI didn't have to depend on these ...................clowns to get the job done:ack
 
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BlackICE

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White House struggles to get story right on raid

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16026/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=k21QfjHn

Thankfully, Seal Team VI didn't have to depend on these ...................clowns to get the job done:ack

Many years ago they did in Iran, look what happened! :ack
 

Neilda

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I'm not sure why the 'public' needs to know any details. We put the bin out with the rubbish. End of story. Was he armed? Who gives a sh1t?
 

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I keep waiting for discussions on holding Pakistan accountable for harboring a terrorist. Have I missed that, or has that not been brought up yet?
 

Neilda

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I keep waiting for discussions on holding Pakistan accountable for harboring a terrorist. Have I missed that, or has that not been brought up yet?

Oh they didn't know. No, really. Really really. He was hidden next to their main military academy in a compound with snipers on the roof and lots of barbed wire and high walls, quite easy to miss if you think about it.

The media in the UK is now examining the 'execution' of bin boy. I really don't understand our world - this rabid dog was responsible for the deaths, the grisly deaths, of thousands. When faced with a rabid dog do you give it a biscuit and re-home it with a loving family? No, you shoot the fecker ASAP and get on with the rest of your day.

Personally, I would have taken a little longer to finish the job, but then I'm not a professional.
 

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Oh they didn't know. No, really. Really really. He was hidden next to their main military academy in a compound with snipers on the roof and lots of barbed wire and high walls, quite easy to miss if you think about it.

The media in the UK is now examining the 'execution' of bin boy. I really don't understand our world - this rabid dog was responsible for the deaths, the grisly deaths, of thousands. When faced with a rabid dog do you give it a biscuit and re-home it with a loving family? No, you shoot the fecker ASAP and get on with the rest of your day.

Personally, I would have taken a little longer to finish the job, but then I'm not a professional.


Go to the head of the class, Neil.

Were any of the 3,000 people killed in the Twin Towers strike armed? No. Were the people on the plane that hit the Pentagon armed? No. Were the people on the plane that crashed in the Pennsylvania field armed? No. In fact, how many of the thousands of people killed by UBL's maggots around the world have been armed?

We can only imagine the world-wide 'p.c.' circus that would have gone on had "bin boy" simply been captured. In addition, bazillions of dollars would have been spent just on the legal circus that would surely have followed - not to mention the security nightmare surrounding it. I'll bet there are many who would have INSISTED we give him a kidney transplant - and given him time to recover - before he went to trial.

It really infuriates me that the whole armed/unarmed question was ever brought up. What sane person even cares? The puke got far better than he deserved.

Musharraf's comments regarding Pakistan's supposed lack of prior knowledge about Bin Laden being in that compound were a total joke...as were those of the current admin over there. There is no possible way Pakistan's military, intel community, and government didn't know Bin Laden was in the country.
 

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In the Iran raid, Oper. Eagle Claw, 8 helicopters took off, one crashed, one malfunctioned, one helicopter turned back for still unexplained reasons.

This left only 5 choppers unable to ferry all commandos & hostages back.

With 6 they would have landed at embassy, raided, extracted, left and launched cruise missiles on Ayatollahs/leadersip ending their power, and supported a coup from remaining Shahs Officers.

All that didn't happen for that one helicopter; the Commanders on site are still bitter to this day and convinced the Islamic revolution would be a blip in some banana republic compared to what it became.

GQ has the story from 11/09; with all military involved.

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/200911/iran-hostage-crisis-tehran-embassy-oral-history


Kyle: The first helicopter aborted due to a blade problem about an hour into the mission. Another pilot was separated from the group in the dust storm. He lost his confidence and went back to the carrier. He claimed he was afraid he was going to crash and all sorts of blubbering things.

Carney: They'd launched eight helicopters from the Nimitz. The one major contingency of the mission was that we had to have six. That was the absolute minimum. Six helicopters made it to Desert One.

Kyle: We refueled them. All were ready to go with Delta northbound.

Carney: Now you're high-fiving: "We did it—let's go!" And then it just turned to manure. One of the helicopters shut down; his backup hydraulic system was out. That left us with five helicopters—an automatic abort.

Kyle: The mission could not go with five helicopters, because the extra twenty-some people on the chopper that had aborted were too much weight. I was just trying to keep the mission going. I said, "Is there any way you can reduce by twenty shooters?" [Colonel Charlie] Beckwith said, "**** you, I ain't gonna do that. I don't know what I'm up against."

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Kyle: What it all boils down to is, one guy with a good helicopter—a helicopter we needed to complete the mission—turned around and flew all the way back to the Nimitz. The Marines nicknamed that pilot Turn Back.
 
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Kayvan,

That failed mission launched by President Carter was a real black eye for our country. At the time it happened one of my good friends (and roommate whenever he was in the Phoenix area) Hershel Davis was the senior U.S. Navy SEAL Command Master Chief. Hershel told me that his friend Charlie Beckwith was hung out to dry and his career essentially over as he was made the scapegoat for that failure. A few years later when I flew my Aviat Husky up to the Gunsite Firearms Training facility in Paulden, AZ to visit Hershel while he was teaching a class I was greeted on the dirt runway by two men who drove out in a pickup truck to pick me up. I was most surprised to find out they were Viktor Belenko (the Soviet pilot that defected to the west in a MIG-25) and Charlie Beckwith. :eek They had become good friends and visited Gunsite often to see Hershel. That night in Hershel's quarters over a couple bottles of Jack Daniels, Charlie and Viktor regaled me with some of the most amazing stories including a first hand account of that disaster in the desert. Charlie died not very long after that and his widow sent his cremated remains to Hershel to be scattered on a mountain near Gunsite. On a visit to the Annual Gunsite Alumni Shoot some months after Charlie's death I was talking to Hershel about him and the old Master Chief pointed to a box on his shelf and said, "That's Charlie right there." Some weekend when a few more of his friends can assemble with me up here we are going to scatter his ashes. Let's take a picture of him with your Charley. So we went out front and did just that. In the picture below is Navy SEAL legend Hershel Davis (36 years of service, 2 Purple Hearts), a very young Charley Beck, and the remains of Charlie Beckwith with a bottle of his favorite drink.

Charley Beck with Charlie Beckwith.

As an aside, Hershel was forced out of the Navy after 36 years (he delayed his retirement 6 years beyond when he was supposed to retire and was still furious that he could not stay on). At the time of his retirement he was the Command Master Chief for Admiral Davis who was commander of the Coronado, CA SEAL base (SEAL Team 1). At the start of the war in Iraq Hershel could not stay out of it and went to work for Blackwater where served more time in Afghanistan than any other member and quickly rose to head of all personnel. When Blackwater was sold Hershel went to work for another private security company and as I type this, 69 year old Hershel Davis is STILL serving in Afghanistan!! Hard as a rock and able to swim a mile and run for many more. What a man.

Chip

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Thanks Chip! There's a bunch of you guys in the Scottsdale area.:thumbsup
 
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