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Actually I dont "know" that Gulf paint will be an option. Maybe that is something Ford decides should be left to the originals raced with that sponsors support and those with the 05's and 06's.

I certainly believe that there is a faction in the decision making process that has exactly this opinion. That said, $ is a powerful motivating factor, and orange and blue has clearly been worth a bunch.
 

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I get it but with the current value premium put on the Heritage paint schemes I'm guessing that's going to be the most ordered option. Heck, I could see a scenario where most '16 GT's are Gulf themed.
 

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Actually I dont "know" that Gulf paint will be an option.

It appears you took my use of the word "KNOW" a bit too literally. :skep

Gulf paint has appeared on both GT40s and on present FGTs. Given that livery's long tradition/association/history with past GTs, why would it not be logical to assume 'twould continue? Or, to put it the other way 'round, given its history, why would it be logical to assume it won't be offered?

'Rhetorical question(s).
 

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^ I'm thinking Ford is trying to find the right balance between capitalizing on the "Heritage" of past GT's while looking forward to building a car that can stand on its own and set a similar standard. Using the term Heritage to describe the option of the Gulf paint scheme was looking backwards in a sense.

From all appearance Ford is looking forward. No V8, no manual transmission etc..

JMHO
 

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Using the term Heritage to describe the option of the Gulf paint scheme was looking backwards in a sense.

I understand your point. But it seems to me it would be completely 'do-able' to offer both...the old as well as whatever the "new" might turn out to be, no?

'Can't see why it would need to be an 'either/or' proposition.



I mean, who wouldn't want this?

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/showthread.php/30209-Here-come-the-photoshops-colors

Edit: Crap...'can't cut-and-paste worth a darn...scroll down to Ed's post (#6)!
 
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I can't see the new GT in heritage paint. 05-06 GTs closely resembled the original. New GT , though some resemblance still very modern and futuristic! Maybe if the gulf colors were metallic and the blue like the show car!!
 

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The colors weren't fords they were John Wyer's gulf sponsored cars including the absolutely most beautiful porsche 917. Didn't Ford have to get approval from gulf to use the colors on the gt?
 
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I don't. While it may be the most valued, many owners appreciate the color on someone else s car. I would never own a baby blue and pastel orange car. Just not my thing.
 

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The colors weren't fords they were John Wyer's gulf sponsored cars including the absolutely most beautiful porsche 917. Didn't Ford have to get approval from gulf to use the colors on the gt?

I'm sure they looked into the "Gulf" color ownership. But, in the end, I believe it was a non-issue. And that's why it's called a" Heritage" paint scheme.
 

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I don't. While it may be the most valued, many owners appreciate the color on someone else s car. I would never own a baby blue and pastel orange car. Just not my thing.

How about the same pattern in the colors of your choice? :wink

Strangely enough, Heritage paint on a FGT isn't really my thing either. I don't completely dislike it by any means. 'Not even close. But pastels in general just aren't my 'thing'. It wouldn't have been worth $10K for me to have ordered that option back in the day, if you get my meaning. However, that paint scheme on a GT40???! Oh, yeah! :willy In fact, it's really the only paint for a '40 IMHO (but, the car also has to have the decals). The diff here lies in the size of the two cars, I think. The FGT's extra 10% of 'mass' makes it too big of a 'canvas' for that much pastel paint.

All that said, regardless of its size, the NFGT looks k-i-l-l-e-r in Heritage...at least in Ed's post anyway! I believe that's probably because there's just so much other 'visual stuff' going on everywhere on the car's body that one doesn't even notice the fact that the paint is pastel.

Again; all just MHO.

Have we all sufficiently beaten this subject to death now? :lol




Edit: 'Just saw Gene's post. He already suggested the 'color' thing! :biggrin

... Maybe if the gulf colors were metallic and the blue like the show car!!
 
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I'm sure they looked into the "Gulf" color ownership. But, in the end, I believe it was a non-issue. And that's why it's called a" Heritage" paint scheme.

And that's why the blue is part of the standard Ford palette and not anywhere close to the actual blue of the 1960s. Primary car color had to be an existing Ford paint. They got away with a different orange because nothing in the rulebook prevented an accent color from coming from outside the existing choices.
 

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No F488 is going out the door for less than 365K. The base price on a Ferrari does't include a damn thing. No new 458s left the door last year less than 330k and thats the OLD model.

Not quite. I specced out my 458 in 2013 with tons of options for $298k. Though prices have risen, here's a moderately equipped 2015 for $272k. $330k is in Spider/Speciale range.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ferrari-458...c961eb2fd&item=191497155325&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
 

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Well if it is too high a price, don't buy one. It's that simple.
 

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I don't. While it may be the most valued, many owners appreciate the color on someone else s car. I would never own a baby blue and pastel orange car. Just not my thing.


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Midnight blue is the fastest anyway
 

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Midnight blue is the fastest anyway

Fastest to be parked in a garage maybe.
 

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Not quite. I specced out my 458 in 2013 with tons of options for $298k. Though prices have risen, here's a moderately equipped 2015 for $272k. $330k is in Spider/Speciale range.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ferrari-458...c961eb2fd&item=191497155325&pt=US_Cars_Trucks


Yes thats true of a 2013 but a fairly modded 458 in 2014 is 330K. The F488? anybody's guess and THAT is the model that everyone is going to compare withe the FGT. 400K promise.
 

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And that's why the blue is part of the standard Ford palette and not anywhere close to the actual blue of the 1960s. Primary car color had to be an existing Ford paint. They got away with a different orange because nothing in the rulebook prevented an accent color from coming from outside the existing choices.

Which existing color was it? Azure from the Mach? Edit: don't think it's Azure...
 
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Which existing color was it? Azure from the Mach? Edit: don't think it's Azure...

The Motorcraft Chemical and Lubricants Catalog for 2006/2007 lists the Touch up Paint as Code GL with the name of Heritage Blue in both the Vehicle Division Color Promotional Name, and the Customer Service Division Color Name. It gives it an "N" or new color for 2006, with the Part Number of PMP-19500-7138A.

However, the Paint Code "Ford GL" is also found to have been used in 1994 & 1995 on the Ford Probe, and was called "Twilight Royal Plum" which had 2 codes, GL and 3Y.

If you look at the paint Sample in the middle of the page below, you will see that the code 3Y can mean any of three different colors, for a light blue, turquoise and a plum purple, so it seems that they have reused the letter codes for significantly different colors -

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?code=3Y&manuf=Ford&rows=50

So, it would appear that the code GL has been used twice, for a plum purple and the Heritage Blue.

However, the other Ford Code for it is M7138 which is unique to just the 2006 Ford GT, and is called "Gulf Heritage Blue." It is also Sherwin Williams Code 70467, which is unique to the 2006 Ford GT too. Again, look at the Sample colors.

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?code=GL&manuf=Ford&rows=50

The Orange Stripe is given Code W5615E, and is also unique to the 2006 Ford GT.

But, I agree -
Midnight blue is the fastest anyway
 
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Which existing color was it? Azure from the Mach? Edit: don't think it's Azure...

I can't remember what Camilo told me but I think he said it was from Thunderbird. He's often considered doing his own car in a more correct blue.