New radar detector for those that need the best!


analogdesigner

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I still have my original Escort from the '70's. They used to make a very reliable product, as all five of (various models) mine are still working great!

http://www.escortinc.com/9500i-inside-look.htm

Jay,

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=34
 

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I still have my original Escort from the '70's. They used to make a very reliable product, as all five of (various models) mine are still working great!

http://www.escortinc.com/9500i-inside-look.htm

Jay,

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=34

Jay,
with lidar being used radar detectors will perform what service?
We have 30 units being tested by CHP Central Division.
Cheers,
daniel
 

analogdesigner

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LIDAR issues...

Jay,
with lidar being used radar detectors will perform what service?
We have 30 units being tested by CHP Central Division.
Cheers,
daniel
Daniel,

Yes, I saw a CHP testing a new LIDAR right by my on ramp. The detectors will give you warning provided there is someone else in front of you that is being "pinged". It's really scary that this country is turning into a police state. I am developing a ultra-high power LIDAR jammer for myself. This will be rainy-day project since I have made too many other promises, like the wireless battery trickle charge, etc.

Jay
 
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I've gotten tooooo used to my 8500 in blue cause it matches the nuclear reactor light.
 

Kave

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Daniel,

Yes, I saw a CHP testing a new LIDAR right by my on ramp. The detectors will give you warning provided there is someone else in front of you that is being "pinged". It's really scary that this country is turning into a police state. I am developing a ultra-high power LIDAR jammer for myself. This will be rainy-day project since I have made too many other promises, like the wireless battery trickle charge, etc.

Jay

I agree, how did people that drive a little over the bull speed limit, become puplic enemy number one.

Investment wise its better to put police and chp on speed patrol, rather than crime patrol.
 

BlackICE

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Lidar jammers are off the shelf products. However they are illegal in some states including CA. CHP are not dummies, and if you have a jammer I suspect they will know something is funny and pull you over to look for a jammer. A custom product may be harder for them to find though.
 

ChipBeck

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Wouldn't it be great if.....

......law enforcement spent less time trying to detect american drivers going a bit too fast and more time trying to detect what's coming across our borders?? Call us "undocumented test drivers" who are just trying to better ourselves by saving a little time and then ignore us!!

Chip
 

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Lidar jammers are off the shelf products. However they are illegal in some states including CA. CHP are not dummies, and if you have a jammer I suspect they will know something is funny and pull you over to look for a jammer. A custom product may be harder for them to find though.

The trick is to install a momentary switch on the dash for your jammer. When your detector pings, you hit the brakes quickly without causing a scene, when you’re safely under the speed limit, press the switch on the dash. The switch immediately kills the jammer, and the radar system then gets a read on you like it should. All this occurs in seconds. The cop will simply think he didn't get a good reading, especially as you get closer to him and everything looks fine on his system. You hold the switch down for a few miles until you are out of range, then let go and keep cruising. This is for under bumper/inside instrument cluster installations, which are always better because they don't see you scrambling to pull down you detector in case you get caught, and if you get caught, everything looks kosher. They're not going to know what the two tiny 1/8" LEDs are inside your instrument cluster are, or the 1/4" diameter black switch on the bottom of the dash where you can press it without changing you body position. If you spend a lot of time at very high speeds, rallys, etc., it's worth the extra expense to do it stealthy and right. It makes the process much less stressful, and that is always a good thing when you're moving quick and need to react calmly. More than a few guys have wrecked just after being detected.
 

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I still have my original Escort from the '70's.

I am going to stick with my Valentine1, but you are right these things look impressive. The GPS feature that tells you how fast your going when the radar hits is cool.
 

Tungsten

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I have the system from Escort installed in my GT. It does exactly what you were saying. There is a button that you push that allows the Lidar to clock you when you are ready. I have been clocked many times and the system has jammed the Lidar until I had my speed down to an acceptable level.

I really thought that they would pull you over if they did not get a reading, but they simply go on to the next car. Usually before I can push the button that have shifted to another car. This system works amazingly well and you cannot even see it in the car.

Also, according to Escort...Lidar jamming in not illegal in CA. Radar jamming is, but not Lidar. Don't know if they are correct or not, just what thier web site says.

Don:thumbsup
 

BlackICE

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In CA,

Radar & Laser Jammers
Under California law, the use of radar and laser jammers is illegal. It is also a felony under federal law to jam or attempt to jam police radar signals. Many states criminalize the mere possession of a radar jammer, so it is best to avoid such products altogether.

From:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc28150.htm

For those not in CA, any good idea on where to mount the LEDs in steath mode? Pictures would be nice.
 

analogdesigner

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I have the system from Escort installed in my GT. It does exactly what you were saying. There is a button that you push that allows the Lidar to clock you when you are ready. I have been clocked many times and the system has jammed the Lidar until I had my speed down to an acceptable level.

I really thought that they would pull you over if they did not get a reading, but they simply go on to the next car. Usually before I can push the button that have shifted to another car. This system works amazingly well and you cannot even see it in the car.

Also, according to Escort...Lidar jamming in not illegal in CA. Radar jamming is, but not Lidar. Don't know if they are correct or not, just what thier web site says.

Don:thumbsup
The Escort unit really works well. My friend has one and was accidently going 10 MPH over in a 45 zone. He said that a motorcycle cop tried to clock him without success. He just aimed his LIDAR gun towards the ground in confussion, trying to figure out what happened while my friend drove by. It helped because there was plently of traffic and went to the next car as you stated.
 

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I never drive faster than the posted speed limit. Why would you ever need one of these devices? :frown :frown
 

analogdesigner

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Sometimes I wish I was in Germany

In CA,

Radar & Laser Jammers
Under California law, the use of radar and laser jammers is illegal. It is also a felony under federal law to jam or attempt to jam police radar signals. Many states criminalize the mere possession of a radar jammer, so it is best to avoid such products altogether.

From:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc28150.htm

For those not in CA, any good idea on where to mount the LEDs in steath mode? Pictures would be nice.
Yeah, our rights are being invaded when the government starts dictating how photons are being utilized. What a bunch of B.S....

Also, use a single high power laser diode bar, not a bunch of wimpy LED's. You'll get about 1,000 times the output power! Sorry everyone, I got stuck in my libertarian mode for a moment, since I had to pay $4,000 for some neutered attorney that can't return phone calls. More on that later. Jay
 

BlackICE

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Yeah, our rights are being invaded when the government starts dictating how photons are being utilized. What a bunch of B.S....

Also, use a single high power laser diode bar, not a bunch of wimpy LED's. You'll get about 1,000 times the output power! Sorry everyone, I got stuck in my libertarian mode for a moment, since I had to pay $4,000 for some neutered attorney that can't return phone calls. More on that later. Jay

Our rights are invaded in a number of areas. Even if I don't agree with some law, that doesn't stop them from putting me in jail. Getting back to lidar, what frequency is best? Would something like this 20W bar work, or something stronger? I think this may be stronger than needed, but you never have to much power!

http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/ceolaser/SiteFiles/docs/PDFs/laser_diode_bars/20w-um.pdf
 

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Did you read the note about the dry nitrogen environment? These guys are fairly close to me.
 

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I never drive faster than the posted speed limit. Why would you ever need one of these devices? :frown :frown

screw me...., but do we need this bull !? Of course we drive them as they should...otherwise, get an awsum Prius...., ..:lol :rofl :lol
 
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analogdesigner

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905 nM

Our rights are invaded in a number of areas. Even if I don't agree with some law, that doesn't stop them from putting me in jail. Getting back to lidar, what frequency is best? Would something like this 20W bar work, or something stronger? I think this may be stronger than needed, but you never have to much power!

http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/ceolaser/SiteFiles/docs/PDFs/laser_diode_bars/20w-um.pdf
BlackICE,

Yes! You want a 905 nM wavelength. I use at lot of mounted laser bars in my work. Some have 52 separate lasers that are in parallel. I have a laser diode driver that I have designed for a client (the circuit is pat. pending, however anyone can use it), which can generate very narrow pulses in excess of 4,000 amps! Some of these laser diodes can be pulsed at 2,000 amps if the pulse is narrow, <50 nS in width. Most of them have a "natural" 10 x 30 (or 40) degree cone of output energy. This is ideal since it eliminates complex passive optics. Ideally you want a very fast rising edge for the diode current, <10 nS. This is extremely difficult to do since the laser diode is a super low-impedance load, about 500 uOhms (0.0005 ohms) at 2,000 amps! I have found that CEO (the brand that you found) makes one of the better high power laser diode bars. I am also working with a VCSEL. They can work well at 905 nM, however, their high power pulsed performance remains to be seen. Jay
 
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analogdesigner

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Did you read the note about the dry nitrogen environment? These guys are fairly close to me.
fjpikul,

The laser diode should be mounted in a hermetically seal case, filled with nitrogen to protect the diode "chip". Fortunetely, we now make our own dry nitrogen for that reason. One other thing is that the laser diode is very small, making it easy to conceal, compared to a bunch of IR LED's. :biggrin
 

analogdesigner

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I never drive faster than the posted speed limit. Why would you ever need one of these devices? :frown :frown
Awsum,

You are really funny :bs!!!