The car was conceived and built to win Le Mans. The race car, which is obviously successful, weighs what it weighs. We have a road car that is very closely based on the race car. The fact that the road car didn't gain more weight in the transition is admirable.
Did anyone notice that the dry weight is listed in Ford's specs as 3054 lbs for the "coupe." Hmmmm
Dialing in the full wet Weight :
Car = 3054 lbs ( Ford)
Fuel = 92.72 lbs (15.2 gal x 6.1 lbs / gal) ( Ford listed capacity)
H2O / block coolant = 41.86 lbs ( 20.1 Qts x 2.0825) ( Ford listed capacity. wght based on 8.33 lbs/ gal )
Engine oil = 27.54 lbs ( 15.3 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( Ford listed capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
Hydraulic Sys. Fld = 15.3 lbs ( 8.5 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( Ford listed capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
* Trans gear oil = 11.7 lbs ( 6.5 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( * estimated capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
* Trans Clutch Fluid= 11.7 lbs ( 6.5 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( * estimated capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
Brake Fluid = 1.98 lbs ( 1.1 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( Ford listed capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
Total wet weight not including washer fluid should be 3256 lbs +/- a few pounds. I had the estimate the transmission fluids. I couldn't find the hard capacity numbers..
Take off the ACR's trick Kuhmo's and put true street tires on and it won't be faster
Nice job figuring this all out Brian. Add 195 pounds for me and it's road ready at 3451 lb. Let's roll.
Chip
AB:Dialing in the full wet Weight :
Car = 3054 lbs ( Ford)
Fuel = 92.72 lbs (15.2 gal x 6.1 lbs / gal) ( Ford listed capacity)
H2O / block coolant = 41.86 lbs ( 20.1 Qts x 2.0825) ( Ford listed capacity. wght based on 8.33 lbs/ gal )
Engine oil = 27.54 lbs ( 15.3 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( Ford listed capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
Hydraulic Sys. Fld = 15.3 lbs ( 8.5 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( Ford listed capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
* Trans gear oil = 11.7 lbs ( 6.5 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( * estimated capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
* Trans Clutch Fluid= 11.7 lbs ( 6.5 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( * estimated capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
Brake Fluid = 1.98 lbs ( 1.1 qts x 1.8 lbs) ( Ford listed capacity. oil wght based on 7.2 lbs/ gal )
Total wet weight not including washer fluid should be 3256 lbs +/- a few pounds. I had the estimate the transmission fluids. I couldn't find the hard capacity numbers..
GT has R comp tires too. Pilot Sport Cup 2's
Was the car in that test session a Heritage version , No a/c and radio and did it have the carbon wheels and lug nuts?
Im just asking, we all know making a race car into a street car is very hard.
Just wondering if the above was the package.
Thanks
GTJOEY
Not sure I follow " the race car dry " weight math. are you / Raj saying 3173 lbs is the Road car weight with fluids but not fuel? I did my calcs the long way for the road car.. .. looks like I was with in 6 lbs. There are various weights stated for the weight of oil so I just picked one for a base line and ran with it ..AB:
"When pressed, Nair said the "race car dry" (filled with all fluids and ready to drive but without fuel) weight of the GT is 3,173 pounds. This figure is used to eliminate different fuel tank capacities when comparing weights."
3,173 + 93 = 3,266lbs wet.
The car in that test session was a car with standard wheels, standard air conditioner, standard radio and standard exhaust.
The Heritage car comes equipped with air conditioner and radio, and the CF wheels are not available for it. You cannot delete the air con or radio from the Heritage car.
i'm iucky enough to have owned two versions of the NFGT's true competitor, the McLaren 675LT. (I do not consider the bloated and homely 488 to be a contender; gotta wait for the Speciale/Scuderia/Stradale version). Obviously, I've never driven the NFGT, but if it is anything like the LT, prepare to be blown away. The LT's power to weight ratio, along with its reflexive handling, made it the finest car I have ever owned or driven. Period. That car accelerates so stinking hard on the boost that it makes me laugh out loud. Once my head stops spinning, that is.
I had the privilege to take the LT and my Porsche GT3 to the Inde track in southern Arizona. I am far from an ace, but have a considerable amount of time on the track in lots of different cars. Yes, the GT3 was amazing, but driving it back-to-back with the LT was a revelation. The McLaren's brute acceleration was impressive, but the unflappable handling of the LT is what really set it apart. I simply could not drive up to the potential of the LT, no matter how hard I pushed, and given the fact that I completely ruined an innocent set of Pirelli Corsas in the process (both front AND rear) it wasn't as if I was driving slow. The LT never even felt like it was breaking a sweat, much less straining.
The point I'm driving at here is that if the NFGT is equal to, or even marginally better than the LT on the road OR track, we are all in for a very special car. Yes, it would have been nice if it were a bit lighter, but in the end, its how well the whole package works. Beside, I'll bet with some enterprising aftermarket mods, the weight could be reduced a bit.
Ford, you rock.
Agree completely.. hair-splitting aside (on both Forums), the NFGT will be a beast if it's anywhere near as impressive as the 675LT.
That was a quote from Raj. So your math is pretty spot on.Not sure I follow " the race car dry " weight math. are you / Raj saying 3173 lbs is the Road car weight with fluids but not fuel? I did my calcs the long way for the road car.. .. looks like I was with in 6 lbs. There are various weights stated for the weight of oil so I just picked one for a base line and ran with it ..
Love to have an official 0-60 figure as well.