Got my Ford GT Recall Notice Today for Air Bag Replacement
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Xcentric
GT Owner
Because some cars have Takata on both sides and some cars have Takata on one side and some cars don't have Takata at all.
Do you know this as a fact? Or could the different part numbers be application sensitive - but always Takata?? Please illuminate - without conjecture.
Cobrar
GT Owner
Ralphie -
In answer to your question, there are a couple of ways where an OE can separate an affected vehicle. 1) a given part in a Ford vehicle may be dual sourced - that is more than one supplier making the same part - one part is affected, the other suppliers part may not be. 2) The other occurs when a supplier manufactures a part, but a discovered defect is then isolated by virtue of lot control - e.g. within a given range of dates of manufacture. Lot control is a known as relates to date of manufacture, thus vin#'s.
My GT was built in 2004, and this car has neither recall.
In answer to your question, there are a couple of ways where an OE can separate an affected vehicle. 1) a given part in a Ford vehicle may be dual sourced - that is more than one supplier making the same part - one part is affected, the other suppliers part may not be. 2) The other occurs when a supplier manufactures a part, but a discovered defect is then isolated by virtue of lot control - e.g. within a given range of dates of manufacture. Lot control is a known as relates to date of manufacture, thus vin#'s.
My GT was built in 2004, and this car has neither recall.
Thanks, Rex - My concern is that my car was assembled in the middle of the of the period (Sept, 2005), and yet have only received one notice for the driver's side. So, my question relates to the following:
1) If they are different part numbers, did Takata make bad parts for each part, and thus some people have recalls for both sides?
2) If they are the same part (and from Takata and another source), then during the assembly, if they are installed at the same time, how would you know which side got the questionable part without the Build Book.
3) If they are different parts (from Takata), then each side would have to be checked against the lot number of the car's VIN inventory.
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Cobrar
GT Owner
My short answer may not satisfy you, and I wouldn't fault that, especially where a safety item is concerned, but here goes.
We have to rely on Fords ILVS (in line vehicle sequencing) sustem used in the manufacturing process. This ILVS system and a related process are what is used to create a build sheet/traveler there is (usually) one (only) build sheet for each car. This is essentially the part DNA for a car. The data contained in it would tell an OE what part and corresponding engineering level/lot code are in a given car. The 'build book' from Saleen/Wixom does not contain all of the same level of detail that is found in ILVS. It is basically a station to station account with sign offs on certain values.
And if you think you're concerned, how would you feel if this process advised that both if your air bags are OK - this is where I'm at - Trust the process.
We have to rely on Fords ILVS (in line vehicle sequencing) sustem used in the manufacturing process. This ILVS system and a related process are what is used to create a build sheet/traveler there is (usually) one (only) build sheet for each car. This is essentially the part DNA for a car. The data contained in it would tell an OE what part and corresponding engineering level/lot code are in a given car. The 'build book' from Saleen/Wixom does not contain all of the same level of detail that is found in ILVS. It is basically a station to station account with sign offs on certain values.
And if you think you're concerned, how would you feel if this process advised that both if your air bags are OK - this is where I'm at - Trust the process.
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fjpikul
GT Owner
Rex, perhaps you should learn to respond like IndyGt with a lot of complicated technical engineer talk to hide what you are really saying. Remember, Ralphie is an engineer too.
twobjshelbys
GT Owner
So I think the only way you would truly know would be to call the Ford recall department and instead of asking "is my passenger side air bag being recalled" but to ask "what manufacturer is my passenger side air bag inflater canister made by and why isn't it being recalled". I don't know if they can dig that deep at the level of access they have. I suspect they only know "0 or 1"
Cobrar
GT Owner
From what I remember of the damage, it was limited and low speed, would be unlikely to set off front airbags. The bright side - If they had deployed, you'd still be cleaning up that white particulate (baking soda) stuff, it gets everywhere.
Cobrar
GT Owner
FENZO
GT Owner
My '05, VIN# 322 Ford owner site, Recall Notices - "Currently, there are no listed recalls for your vehicle."
Is my car considered "early"?
Is my car considered "early"?
twobjshelbys
GT Owner
I now think that early or late may not be germane to the air bag issue but only time will tell.
That said,...is your car an early car?
I would say so.
Out of 4000+ cars built yours is within the first 200 built.
Not by VIN (necessarily) but by build date.
FENZO
GT Owner
