Well... It looks like Mark is letting some secrets out early!
You guys are getting a sneak peak prior to the system's first public appearance at PRI in December. The car won't be "finished" or running at that point, but all the major components will be in place, displaying the new system at the show. It's been a long road to this point, but we're excited to be so close to reveling one of the projects that what we've been working so hard for so long on.
Thank you for the support.
Most have NO IDEA how much goes into producing something like this to the level it is being built at. Nothing is off the shelf. 95%+ of the system is designed from scratch. There is a phenomenal amount of our engineering and CAD labor to design all the elements of this system.
Some may ask, why go through the effort?... Our goal has and is to produce turbo GT power levels with screw charger throttle response and drivability. This requires a totally different approach to the way the screw system works to avoid some of the traditional limitations inherent with screw chargers. I believe in the saying: If you want the results everyone else gets, do what everyone else does. If you want better results, do things differently. Anything great is never easy, and anything easy is never great.
Aside of the number of hours to design this system (Engineering and CAD), and the hours to create this system (fabrication and assembly), there is the expense. You all can imagine Mark has a healthy amount of cash in this project... but most don't know that we are fronting a TON of the development cost for this build as well... our engineering time, CAD time, prototyping, CAM programing, and machining. That new 5 axis machined part Mark just posted for example... was first quoted at $26,000, the second shop quoted $21,000. Obviously that's absurd, but it took time to line out reasonable manufacturing processes for parts that are reproducible at reasonable cost. Point is we all know the old adage, "Time and Money". It takes both, and Mark and I are both heavily invested in each.
I hope that as the uniqueness of the system and the quality of the work is revealed, along with the final results of the project, coupled with the understanding of what is involved in this process... that a respect for the timeline will develop.
Most shops don't allow a public display of their prototyping processes, especially on something as complex as this build, for obvious reasons seen in this thread... but I know that I can speak for Mark and myself in saying that we are both extremely passionate about what we do and really enjoy sharing the process and evolution of his car with the forum.
All the best
PS... Last sneak peek pics until the show!
I think I mentioned that Fish puts everything together in CAD to test for part collision before anything is created IRL. This is one of the images that keeps me going when Mullet asks 'so when is it going to be done?'
I think Fish is accepting deposits for the next set of components.looks pretty cool, I'll take one too.
oh and here goes since it's been a while........
longest build thread ever
Is it done yet?
Man, Fubar, are you ever going to finish this car or is it going to be one of those never ending projects? How many years has it been now -- over a decade? Have the pistons, rods, and crank rusted together waiting for all these mods to be completed?
Been looking forward to it's completion for a long, long, long time. At this rate, I'll probably be in my grave and the headstone disintegrated before it's completed.
Man, Fubar, are you ever going to finish this car or is it going to be one of those never ending projects? How many years has it been now -- over a decade? Have the pistons, rods, and crank rusted together waiting for all these mods to be completed?
Been looking forward to it's completion for a long, long, long time. At this rate, I'll probably be in my grave and the headstone disintegrated before it's completed.
Fubar, they are just giving you some good natured ribbing. Please continue to post about your progress. The project is very interesting and adds much to the forum. It would take me just as long to do what you are doing, assuming I had the ability to do it at all. lol
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Keep the updates coming.
Fubar, they are just giving you some good natured ribbing. Please continue to post about your progress. The project is very interesting and adds much to the forum. It would take me just as long to do what you are doing, assuming I had the ability to do it at all. lol
I see that you and mullet went to the same class for encouraging friends at finishing school. I just don't have the budget to throw another $60k at the car to make it happen now! All I have is pride in the work and hopes for the results. This about the only forum I post the details on. I just figured the techs here would enjoy the new approach to an old question. I'll just hold off an new stuff until the project is complete. That way nobody has to suffer thru this insidiously long build thread.
On another note, here is the newly designed intake plenum on the 5L Whipple. Fish got the machine lines to match up perfectly. Every looks like it was made to bolt up next to everything else. Nice work Shawn!
Fubar, they are just giving you some good natured ribbing. Please continue to post about your progress. The project is very interesting and adds much to the forum. It would take me just as long to do what you are doing, assuming I had the ability to do it at all. lol