Dumb Gt Dealers
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There is one in Georgia for 180,000 asking price, all options. Thats the lowest I've found, and about 10K over MSRP IIRC.
I saw an interesting one on ebay last week that was heritage with no options...guy wants over 200K though cause it's #40 and that is just great when the ride height of the Ford GT is 44 inches :lol
SLF360 gave me a referral to a Florida dealership that has one on the floor and 3 on the way:
http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422
I also have a inside line with a dealership in Oregon that will order a car to customer spec, but they haven't quoted a price. The deal is off with them cause the car I've been hunting for is now coming from a Michigan dealership. If interested in the OR dealership drop me a PM...
I saw an interesting one on ebay last week that was heritage with no options...guy wants over 200K though cause it's #40 and that is just great when the ride height of the Ford GT is 44 inches :lol
SLF360 gave me a referral to a Florida dealership that has one on the floor and 3 on the way:
http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422
I also have a inside line with a dealership in Oregon that will order a car to customer spec, but they haven't quoted a price. The deal is off with them cause the car I've been hunting for is now coming from a Michigan dealership. If interested in the OR dealership drop me a PM...
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B O N Y
MODERATOR & FGT OWNER
.... FAIR TRADE, or FREE TRADE
I recall the days in my industry in most states, where the manufacturer was forced to publish a price and all retailers were forced to sell at that price. Of course in some states where there was no 'fair trade' the consumers went across state lines to get a better deal. I am in the beverage alcohol business. Today that situation exists on the borders of 9 states where the states sell beverage alcohol in their own stores.
Now, we have MSRP on every car by Federal law. Should the dealers be forced never to sell above the MSRP? How about below? Would this be better for the public? Would it be better for the dealers? Well, I think the dealers would not oppose it.
I see people in a rage because the dealers want to charge what the traffic will bear for the GT. What is wrong to ask an extra $100k for a GT, some person who doesn't want to shop arround, go to Center's site, walks in and buys it, so what? Those that want to shop arround can go to various internet sites and try to find a great deal, fine. It is the way of a free market, the best in the world. Now on the other side, do the same people who rage about the dealers 'bitch' when they sell below MSRP, or even invoice?? :biggrin
I recall the days in my industry in most states, where the manufacturer was forced to publish a price and all retailers were forced to sell at that price. Of course in some states where there was no 'fair trade' the consumers went across state lines to get a better deal. I am in the beverage alcohol business. Today that situation exists on the borders of 9 states where the states sell beverage alcohol in their own stores.
Now, we have MSRP on every car by Federal law. Should the dealers be forced never to sell above the MSRP? How about below? Would this be better for the public? Would it be better for the dealers? Well, I think the dealers would not oppose it.
I see people in a rage because the dealers want to charge what the traffic will bear for the GT. What is wrong to ask an extra $100k for a GT, some person who doesn't want to shop arround, go to Center's site, walks in and buys it, so what? Those that want to shop arround can go to various internet sites and try to find a great deal, fine. It is the way of a free market, the best in the world. Now on the other side, do the same people who rage about the dealers 'bitch' when they sell below MSRP, or even invoice?? :biggrin
- Dec 9, 2005
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I don't have a problem with the dealer getting $100K over for a car, What I'm not clear on is when the market doesn't Bare $100K over any more why some dealers still chose to stick to this price. If you chose to price your alcohol so high nobody would buy it how would your businees do? I would like to buy my GT Locally but the dealers here want Tens of Thousands over MSRP even on 05's which everyone on this Forum knows can be bought for as much as $14K Off of MSRP. If I bougth it here then I would be more confident when I took it back to them for service, as it stands my GT will have to be purchased out of state with a huge savings to me. If Tens of Thousands of dollars don't mean that much to you then Go Get Um. I could pay way over MSRP if I chose, it just doesn't make alot of sense to me. For those guys who paid way over MSRP early on in the production that was the only way to get one and they have been enjoying there cars and I'm sure if they had it to do over they still would have paid the premium. Its one thing to ask way over market value just in case someone pays it, but its another thing to ask way over, and not discount the car to sell it for the going rate.bony said:
B O N Y
MODERATOR & FGT OWNER
FORDGT001 said:
Sorry you don't get it. I also have real estate for sale at the price I think it is worth, I am in no hurry at all, someday someone will agree with my asking price. I have the wherewithall to wait. So, do you think your local dealer should be forced by Ford to sell at msrp?? Yes/No/Maybe/prefer not to answer?
Lastly I ordered my GT before Ford officially ageed to make the car, and
trust me, I bought it very correctly. $15k over window, no regrets!! :cheers
- Dec 9, 2005
- 300
I already did answer, I said if they can get $100K over then get it, But when a dealer has 5 of them sitting on his Showroom floor at $150K over MSRP and isn't discounting, Does he think suddenly there going to rise back up to that price not likely, Real estate is a completely different, Property in most places is going up in value its not like a car that is depreciating asset. If you paid $15K over on a early production car then you got a Smokin Deal, I am sure you knew it at the time that you paid way below current market, I would like to feel as good about the deal when I buy mine as you did when you bought yours. :cheersbony said:
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B O N Y
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FORDGT001 said:
sorry,... again, should the dealer be forced (mandated by Ford) to sell?
Does real estate always appreciate? ... I know it doesn't, matter of fact, I have watched real estate that I want continue to roll back to market correct prices, and I still think it has a long way to go. I am sure in many cases the Ford dealers may adjust their prices on the GT. But then again, doesn't the car continue to drive 'ups' into their showroom? If I was a dealer I would have one in my showroom, if for nothing else display only, but rest assured I would have a 'buy it now price' on it.. :banana
B O N Y
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FrankBarba
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- Dec 9, 2005
- 300
I already talked to the powers that be a few weeks ago at all the local stores, They told me for MSRP they would keep them forever. The best that could be had was $25K over MSRP on a 05 GT. Just so you know I offered Cash at MSRP($156K) on a 05 GT Local here, They told me the car had been gone through and they would service the car after the sale, I was told $180K was the least they would take for the car. They said they could sell dozens at MSRP. I would have bought that car for the offer I made, But now I think I want a 06, But I'll wait till I can get a decent discount off of MSRP.FrankBarba said:
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Bony,bony said:
I will bid on the real estate you have for sale. :cheers
P.S. what you need to understand is that there is a lot of agenda's on this subject. I do believe that some smart people (maybe dealers) actually think the GT will appreciate after production ends or when Ford releases its secret restructuring plans/plant closings next week. Remember supply and demand always wins even over un-truths.
B O N Y
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saber said:
Lets cut to the chase, anybody that has the bucks can a GT today at MSRP, just put an offer on the table. We have a guy on the 4 sale section on this forum that offers msrp and will even take a trade. $$ talk, bs walks. There are lots of cars for sale, we are wasting bandwith here. I wanted an early one, so I paid a premium, no regrets.
FlorIdaho Chris
Yeah, I've got one.
Luke Warmwater
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Found this thread interesting and wonder what your thoughts are a few years later? It seems to me the quote below may not have played out as expected? The value of those cars seems to have dropped substantially versus the GT. Where are GT values headed? Clean examples of almost every car below can be bought for 50 cents on the original MSRP dollar I would think? Thoughts?
racelance
GT Owner
Luke-
Interesting questions... I grew up with a father that was incredibly passionate about cars and the car hobby. Fortunately the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Here's what I've learned from my father via his collecting vehicles throughout his lifetime. Each vehicle he purchased through the years was one he really wanted for one reason or another- mainly because of combination of many items such as the cool factor, performance aspect, originality, low miles and his "have to have it" meter registering in the right range. Unfortunately he passed away 5 years ago, since my sisters or Mother didn't have interest in cars my Mom asked me to go through the vehicles we own and figure out which one's I'd like to have someday down the road. I did just that after getting to know the cars for a couple of year (I took my time) - all the cars were incredible in so many ways, however some of them just weren't cars that I wanted for the long term and on the flip-side the one's I kept are cars I have a serious attachment too. I also realized there were people out there that would really cherish the cars I didn't particulary have a bond with which makes me sleep better at night knowing (I know, I'm crazy!?!).
Every vehicle that he purchased went up in value considerably over the years. How would this money have done if it were invested in the stock market verses the car collection you may ask. Regardless it doesn't matter... he purchased the vehicles because HE was passionate about the cars and the people involved in the hobby. The cars and the people with the hobby brought him great joy. I recall he and I talking about this when I was a little guy (way back :wink) - he directly said there's nothing better than going out to the garage and bonding with the cars, but the other owners is where it all comes into play. To many this sounds crazy, yet to many on this forum - we get it completely - many friendships have been created through this forum alone - which all stemmed from the GT (thanks Bony!).
Below is one example out of our collection so you get the idea. The closest one that parallels to the Ford GT is the '64 289 Cobra we own. My father purchased this nice original example Cobra because it had low miles, it was original and it was fast/cool. He purchased the car in the mid 70's in the $20k range, now the car would pull considerably north of $20k +interest & he enjoyed driving it, showing it and bonding with it. He got to know Carroll Shelby along with many other great people/friends through this car - which is where the true payment/pleasure comes into play. This is another car I just adore - it has it all in my book.
Whenever I purchase a potential "collector" vehicle I always think of various factors - mainly what I look at is... do I really LOVE this car? How many were built? What are the people like that currently own one (or something similar)?Is it original - was it well taken care of & etc. I can tell you I didn't hesitate purchasing a Ford GT because it fit all of the criteria I mentioned throughout this message. This car reached out to me, this forum and the people involved on it simply speak for itself - I was seriously attached to the GT the first time I saw it. I knew I had to have one. What this says to me - there are plenty of other people out there just like me. If the prices go down to $30k - heck, I'll buy a couple more to help average my price down. The more GT's I have the more joy it would bring. :cheers
Okay, now onto answering your original question - sorry for the LONG-winded response! Nobody can say if you buy a GT today that it’ll be a great investment, nor can they say you'll lose your shirt. However we can certainly provide you with our personal thoughts. With this said, I feel Ford nailed it with the GT; it has the American muscle we all have grown to love and the exotic all wrapped into one - it's a car I certainly couldn't live without in my garage (providing my family didn't need the $$ for something more important). These cars have a personality of their own; it’s something that’ll never be duplicated. In my book they have all the ingredients of becoming a serious collector car in the future – who knows how long it’ll take for the value to go up - nobody can predict this?! But I can assure you that I’ll certainly enjoy ownership while I’m the caretaker of my tungsten beauty. Basically what it all boils down too - life is short, enjoy each and every second of it!
The day I purchased my GT is a day I'll cherish forever - you can't replicate that!
Life is good,
Lance
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