Virginia may be for lovers, but it is not for drivers.

[2112]

Also, no front plate in NC

Here in what used to think was the land of oppression, that is a non-moving violation, aka, a user tax. The Cost of not ruining the front of your car.

 

[Empty Pockets]

Also, no front plate in NC

The Cost of not ruining the front of your car.

...and yet motorcycles can run w/o a front plate, can't they. So can ATVs...and dealer cars...and farm vehicles...and certain 'classics'...and cars with "trip permits". "Equal protection clause"??? Whutz that? :shrug

'Going to my room now... :leaving:

:bored

 

[PeteK]

I've been living and driving in Virginia for many years (many decades, now that I think about it), and the traffic laws here are fairly stiff, but not uniquely so--other states in the northeast have similar ways of shaking you down. Some clarification: 20 MPH over the posted limit or more 80+ MPH can be cited as reckless driving. It's not automatic, as the cop has some discretion, but depending on how the cop is feeling at the moment does not make for good citizen-cop relations.

The radar detector thing: well, let's put it this way--the cops pretend they are illegal, and we pretend we don't use them.

The car tax is another negative of living here, and several months back I started a thread to bemoan the level of tax I have to pay in Fairfax County on my GT. 3.57%. Every year. That's more than everything else I spend on the car combined. And Xcentirc is correct that Virginia taxes on market value, not a depreciation schedule, so recently the annual levy has been going UP each year. There are a couple outs though. One is being a volunteer fireman. You can get one car exempted from the tax for that bit of community service. I wonder if they have jobs for guys in their 50's that qualify? I'm gonna ask down at the Great Falls VFD soon.

At some point I'll have to leave this state. Virginia used to be considered a low tax state, but not any more. With the increase in sales tax, income tax, and car tax, it's now in the middle ranks of state tax loads. Still lower than Maryland, but that's not saying much. I'm thinking Idaho….

 

[Ed Sims]

Robert E Lee is rolling in his grave.

Ed

 

[FBA]

Over 80 in some parts of Canada will get your car confiscated, and sold at auction. Similar to hauling drugs in the U.S.

I don't think that is quite so today - here's what I believe it is in Ontario and Quebec, which are the two harshest:

60 km's over the limit will get you a 7-day impound on the spot, 10K fine and 16 points, which is a basically loss of license. There is no confiscation where your ride is sold at auction...not in Canada. Give it time though, and it will come!

 

[MAD IN NC]

NC is to crowded, potholes, tolls, high taxes, cold, expensive...... Oh wait - that was Chicago

Not to bad of a place. Still have "extra" yearly tax on FGT (~$500) and all cars but not a bad place. If going over 85MPH, loss of license for a year, fines etc... and the LEO has the right to impound the car on site.

Ironically enough my last speeding ticket was in Dinwiddie county in Va. The local cops literally built there own private loop in US 85 to grab ya at a 65MPH to 55MPH drop in speed site. They print money there and is know as of the worst speed traps on east coast...

 

[twobjshelbys]

There is a similar thing in Golden CO. After you exit the freeway (combined for I70 and C470) on to US 6 there is a brief portion where the speed limit goes from 45 to 55, and then suddenly (and formerly with a sign only on the right hand side) back to 45 about 100 yards before a stop light. I'd gone to Vegas to pick up my new Supercharged Shelby GT and was beside a panel truck and couldn't see the sign and the cop got me going 51 between the sign and the stop light. How do you spell r-e-v-e-n-u-e? Most places would have reduced the speed limit after the sign.

ANd lo and behold the last time we went back in Sept, there was a speed limit sign also in the median so it can be seen from both lanes.

 

[2112]

^^^^ if it is about revenue, and often it is, then they should have a category of citation that if you are not endangering anyone or anything, there is no reporting it to the insurance companies. They do that now up here on camera tickets so people won't fight the ticket or fight to ban them.

 

[roketman]

This is criminal ! Something should be done.
I would classify this as unresonable traffic laws.
You all need to join The National Motorists Foundation (NMA Foundation)
I am a member.They lobby to eliminate these kind of bogus traffic laws
The web site is www.motorist.org

 

[2112]

NMA is a great organization. Joined nearly 20 years ago.

They also put forfeiture policies under the microscope. Unbelievable things are happening out there.