Trailering advice pls

[Wwabbit]

Do you think either the original shipment or the transferral involved ferrying it up the inland passage from Seattle or Vancouver to Anchorage, or do you think it went on land by the AlCan highway?

Hope for the ferry boat.

 

[THamonGT]

Wow, I'll pass on that one?

 

[mike becks]

Neutral for sure straps threw wheels e brake on and ride.mb

 

[jcthorne]

The trouble with straps through the wheels is where the D rings are placed. If they are not nearly directly below the tire, they will pull at such an angle as to rub the body work fore or aft of the tire. Be sure the angle of the tie strap aligns with the center of the wheel or the wheel itself will turn while in transit and loosen the strap. The slightest bit of slack in the tie strap will cause damage quick due to the impact loads. This is not most cars and Ford specified tire basket tie downs for a reason.

 

[Indy GT]

Indy, Tomy -

Any idea how mine might have been delivered - I've always wondered? It was originally consigned to Nye Frontier Ford in Wasilla, Alaska, according to the sticker. From there, they sent the car to San Diego. Flatrod can verify that the car was in Alaska, as there is a story behind the movement to San Diego.

However, I've always wondered how it made those two trips....

Ralphie, I will see what I can find out.

One question, in your sentence, "From there, they sent the car to San Diego." Do you know who "they" are? I take it FOMOCO physically delivered your car to Wasilla, Alaska. And from that point, if there was a car transfer to another dealership in San Diego, I would think Ford distribution was out of the loop and the two dealers would work out how to get the car from one dealer to another. Did you ever ask the dealer in Alaska how the car got down to San Diego?

But I can check to see how the original GT got from Wixom to Alaska...

 

[Luke Warmwater]

Do we think that a car secured by straps that is left in gear that may move slightly fore and aft when start and stopping is going to place anything remotely close to the load on a gear that 600hp sitting right in front of the taxle will? Are the cars you see on the backs of car haulers heading to dealers shipped in neutral with no e brake?

 

[Specracer]

I did through the wheel, before I installed stem to stern e track. I can speak 1st hand, it is a PITA (!!!) to get the tie down strap hook through the wheel, past the rotor, and then over load with padding to protect the wheel, vs over the tire. Long axle straps help but... You'll see.....

Thanks guys!
Trailex was willing to install e-track, but the guy suggested I give the standard ratchet straps through the wheels to D-rings in the floor a try first. So that is what I am going to do. The straps will be well insulated from the wheels with padding. I know a lot of guys do it that way without issue.

 

[RALPHIE]

...if there was a car transfer to another dealership in San Diego, I would think Ford distribution was out of the loop and the two dealers would work out how to get the car from one dealer to another. Did you ever ask the dealer in Alaska how the car got down to San Diego?....

Thanks, Bill! :thumbsup

You are correct - Ford distribution was out of the loop on the transfer to San Diego. The car was hustled out of the Anchorage area as part of somewhat of a scam by the Wasilla dealer, and I'm not sure how - probably ferried to the northwest, or container shipped direct to San Diego. The Alaskan dealer went out of business not long afterwards. I doubt I'll ever find out.

Anyway, I'm more interested in how Ford shipped it to Alaska.

 

[Sinovac]

Do we think that a car secured by straps that is left in gear that may move slightly fore and aft when start and stopping is going to place anything remotely close to the load on a gear that 600hp sitting right in front of the taxle will? Are the cars you see on the backs of car haulers heading to dealers shipped in neutral with no e brake?

Luke,

When a car is trailered in gear, the drivetrain is exposed to forces not experienced during normal driving. For example, if the car is left in a forward gear and the car is pulled rearward either when strapping the car down or by movement during trailering, there is a strain on the gearbox which is not present when driving. Also consider that the manufacturers strap the car down one time during delivery, whereas owners may trailer their cars many thousands of miles over a period of years.

Paul

 

[fjpikul]

Your cars came with a special cardboard card explaining how to have the Ford Gt transported. You can download this card from the Ford website if you can't find your original. Car is to be fastened with wheel basket straps, out of gear, no e-brake. This is Ford official. End of discussion and argument.

 

[Indy GT]

WOW!

Dr. Frank weighing in on a technical post.....? (and logical at that)

Extraordinary, and no argument Frankie.

 

[Sinovac]

WOW!

Dr. Frank weighing in on a technical post.....? (and logical at that)

Extraordinary, and no argument Frankie.

Ever notice that Dr. Frank and the creepy surgeon from the Human Centipede are never seen together. Hmmm.

 

[Luke Warmwater]

Luke,

When a car is trailered in gear, the drivetrain is exposed to forces not experienced during normal driving. For example, if the car is left in a forward gear and the car is pulled rearward either when strapping the car down or by movement during trailering, there is a strain on the gearbox which is not present when driving. Also consider that the manufacturers strap the car down one time during delivery, whereas owners may trailer their cars many thousands of miles over a period of years.

Paul

Really? What about when your car is in a forward gear at rpm and you let off the gas? Much more force than simply pulling against the engine with slight shift fore and aft during stop/start in an trailer which isn't going to start/stop very hard to begin with. I think you guys are going full anal on this topic but it's a free country lol.

 

[BlackICE]

Really? What about when your car is in a forward gear at rpm and you let off the gas? Much more force than simply pulling against the engine with slight shift fore and aft during stop/start in an trailer which isn't going to start/stop very hard to begin with. I think you guys are going full anal on this topic but it's a free country lol.

I would think it has more to do with the same contact points on the gears and bearings moving back and forth without the benefit of getting new lubrication from the shafts moving and in some cases like the FGT the oil pump turning.

 

[Sinovac]

See page 10.

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdirs/quickref/RTS 2005 Towing Manual.pdf

 

[Indy GT]

I would think it has more to do with the same contact points on the gears and bearings moving back and forth without the benefit of getting new lubrication from the shafts moving and in some cases like the FGT the oil pump turning.

Ice, I agree. I believe the issue here is “dither” or slight movement back and forth while the drivetrain is mechanically coupled to the rear wheels.

See page 10.

Certainly makes sense to me to follow Ford’s recommended (and most likely tested) procedures. Can any of our owners stand up and say they know more about our car than the Ford design team? If that rises to the level of being considered “full anal” then so be it…..

 

[Luke Warmwater]

Oh my goodness lol. I am an engineer and I work with a large group of engineers. We are some of the biggest can't see the forest for the trees idiots in the world. Your transaxle is subject to forces far greater under power than would ever be placed on it in a trailer strapped down being subjected to starting and stopping fore and afte movements. Keep in mind these are the same Ford engineers that gave us a plastic fuel filler flappers and gauges that flake out every time there's a solar flare. Bet none of you ever drew that correlation did you ha.

 

[Xcentric]

Meanwhile, we are in Utah with about 100 Nissans seeing how much force we can put on drivetrains.

 

[Luke Warmwater]

That's some strain on the drivetrain!

Ford engineers would NOT approve of that

 

[Indy GT]

That's some strain on the drivetrain!

Ford engineers would NOT approve of that

Well, maybe they would.
Depends on the design requirements.
(It's a Ford)