BlackICE
GT Owner
It is a lot like women, some look better with their clothes on, some look better with them off.
:lol:thumbsup:lol
The GT and its Nemesis
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It is a lot like women, some look better with their clothes on, some look better with them off.
:lol:thumbsup:lol
Neilda
GT Owner
I wouldn't compare the rather portly Bentley to the Ford GT, but the 599 is the same territory.
The 599 (and the 612) are great computers but, unlike the FGT, are more about mathematics and less about heart and soul. Ferrari are on the path of adding as many Forumla One toys as possible from square steering wheels, to gear change lights, through multiple traction control settings and launch control. As someone who was serious about getting a 599 I looked into it seriously - it's a sensational car, but I think the FGT is more fun to drive, more raw somehow.
I like how long and low the FGT looks agains the 430 in the last shot...
911teo
GT Owner
You can see where Ferrari is going with their cars by looking at the last derivative of the 430. The 430 Scuderia.
There is an interesting article about it on this month's Octane magazine. Basically the author tells us how driver friendly the Scuderia is with all its electronic gizmos.
The Scuderia laps Fiorano 2 seconds faster than the Enzo and the journalist was able to lap only half a second slower than Marc Gene. This was with all the nannies (Ltd slip diff, launch cont, damper assist, elect gear shift, stability cotrl etc).
At the end his praise for the car was clear and he was impressed and he loved the idea of all the F1 technology that was now avaliable to everyone (the gear shift is taken directly from MS' 05 car brain), but could not help but wonder whether this was diluting the experience too much....
I second Neil's opinion on the 599 and 612... I think they are on a different league from the Bentley GT. But (beside being grandpa's cars :wink) they can't match the FGT smile per mile ratio.
There is an interesting article about it on this month's Octane magazine. Basically the author tells us how driver friendly the Scuderia is with all its electronic gizmos.
The Scuderia laps Fiorano 2 seconds faster than the Enzo and the journalist was able to lap only half a second slower than Marc Gene. This was with all the nannies (Ltd slip diff, launch cont, damper assist, elect gear shift, stability cotrl etc).
At the end his praise for the car was clear and he was impressed and he loved the idea of all the F1 technology that was now avaliable to everyone (the gear shift is taken directly from MS' 05 car brain), but could not help but wonder whether this was diluting the experience too much....
I second Neil's opinion on the 599 and 612... I think they are on a different league from the Bentley GT. But (beside being grandpa's cars :wink) they can't match the FGT smile per mile ratio.
FlorIdaho Chris
Yeah, I've got one.
My F430F1 would be gone in a heartbeat if I could find the right 599.
Whoever said the two cars attract a different crowd is right on.
Maybe even more interesting is that they are unattractive to a different crowd as well.
Most drivers give the GT a thumbs up. There are some exotic owners that try to ignore it, but I have seen no visible negative reactions.
While many drivers give the F430 a thumbs up as well, there is a not insignificant portion of the population that is just as likely to exhibit a different digit.
Whoever said the two cars attract a different crowd is right on.
Maybe even more interesting is that they are unattractive to a different crowd as well.
Most drivers give the GT a thumbs up. There are some exotic owners that try to ignore it, but I have seen no visible negative reactions.
While many drivers give the F430 a thumbs up as well, there is a not insignificant portion of the population that is just as likely to exhibit a different digit.
Black GT
GT Owner
- Jan 2, 2006
- 771
Man I love the F1 430! My friends have em and I have to say I love em! The sound the feel just awesome!:thumbsup But I would not give up my GT for one. I just love my GT and all I have is 652rwhp. You guys with the Whipple on must never want to stop!:cheers I was thinking for my next car and always keeping my GT. A Lambo Gallardo or Merci or 360F1 spider or 360CS once I find one. I would get a 430F1 in a heart beat but just too much right now.
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
If you check the complexion of anyone making negative comments about EITHER car, you'll pbly find it's a rather distinctive shade of green.
Sinovac
GT Owner
At least you got two out of three correct. Seriously though, a great photo and the 430 is a great car.
Funny how polarizing a car like the Ferrari can be. I think it has much to do with the different owners' communities. While I will admit that my experience with the Ferrari community has been limited, I can say that my limited experience hasn't been very positive. This tends to transfer over to the cars themselves. Pity because the cars are wonderful.
This isn't an indictment of all Ferrari owners (as the members here who own F cars are bonafide car nuts in my experience) but the market for the F cars is such that they tend to attract many non-drivers who simply have the money to buy the trophy toy.
JOEA2
GT Owner
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
...And if you noticed, in this clip "Hamster" again made reference to the FGT "breaking down" INSTEAD OF ACCURATELY STATING THAT IT WAS THE STUPID AFTER MKT SECURITY SYSTEM that had caused the pblms. AND of coarse ...the gas mileage. Please. Let's get real HERE too...
I realize MOST of that kinda banter is just for "ha-ha's", but still, come on.:bored
ENZO BTR
GT Owner
Definitely a lot of "play acting" for the camera, which is Top Gear's main draw so I can't fault them for that.
But it has led to some major misconceptions about the Ford GT:
Misconception #1: "I heard Jeremy Clarkson had 'a lot of problems' which his."
Yeah, whatever. Let's not get into the whole alarm issue again.
Misconception #2: "It gets terrible mileage and has terrible range."
Uh-huh. I'm at 11,000 miles and I've been tracking mileage since day one. Average mileage over the life of the car? 16.7 mpg. Typical range on a tank? 250-275 miles (that's mixed driving, I'll hit 300 on highway runs).
So let's confirm the record. With pulley/tune/short shifter/transaxle cooler/intake sleeve and Accufab bolts I'm doing zero-to-60 in 3.5 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.6 @ 126mph. I'm getting almost 17 mpg and I've had one shock go bad and a door adjustment to stop a slight clunk over bumps (both fixed for free under warranty in short order by my local, friendly Ford dealership).
Oh, and I'm still not even close to $200,000 total (purchase, tax, title, gas, insurance, mods -- everything!).
Of course I'm pretty new to this whole exotic car ownership experience.
Maybe the FGT is just a hunk of junk? :biggrin
But it has led to some major misconceptions about the Ford GT:
Misconception #1: "I heard Jeremy Clarkson had 'a lot of problems' which his."
Yeah, whatever. Let's not get into the whole alarm issue again.
Misconception #2: "It gets terrible mileage and has terrible range."
Uh-huh. I'm at 11,000 miles and I've been tracking mileage since day one. Average mileage over the life of the car? 16.7 mpg. Typical range on a tank? 250-275 miles (that's mixed driving, I'll hit 300 on highway runs).
So let's confirm the record. With pulley/tune/short shifter/transaxle cooler/intake sleeve and Accufab bolts I'm doing zero-to-60 in 3.5 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.6 @ 126mph. I'm getting almost 17 mpg and I've had one shock go bad and a door adjustment to stop a slight clunk over bumps (both fixed for free under warranty in short order by my local, friendly Ford dealership).
Oh, and I'm still not even close to $200,000 total (purchase, tax, title, gas, insurance, mods -- everything!).
Of course I'm pretty new to this whole exotic car ownership experience.
Maybe the FGT is just a hunk of junk? :biggrin
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Kayvan
GT Owner
- Jul 13, 2006
- 4,782
My take.
-The day a car guy gets a Ferrari, is pretty much in the Top 5 automatically.
-Your car is gorgeous....the red is awesome and looks exactly like GT Red.
-Agree with others that since F355, the visuals are a bit modern/geometric
-The back actually looks the best angle....all business
-Compared to the FGT, the Ferrari seems to use more elliptical themes and truncated lines. Wheres as the, FGT is more swept back squares, and classic steamlined curves and circles.
-I will own a Ferrari one day. Its like Blondes, you havent lived till you have at least one.
ps, Do some interior photos, and engine bay too.
-The day a car guy gets a Ferrari, is pretty much in the Top 5 automatically.
-Your car is gorgeous....the red is awesome and looks exactly like GT Red.
-Agree with others that since F355, the visuals are a bit modern/geometric
-The back actually looks the best angle....all business
-Compared to the FGT, the Ferrari seems to use more elliptical themes and truncated lines. Wheres as the, FGT is more swept back squares, and classic steamlined curves and circles.
-I will own a Ferrari one day. Its like Blondes, you havent lived till you have at least one.
ps, Do some interior photos, and engine bay too.
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cmoody32
GT Owner
- Dec 8, 2006
- 536
Thank you for posting the link.
The best line actually came from Clarkson. "For me, I love this car (Ford GT) more than the others (Zonda and F430)."
I still think he needs to apologize for the bashing of the Ford he has done in the past.
A few years back I was considering getting an f430. I was in Vegas so I went to the Wynn hotel where they have a showroom you can see for 10 bucks or something. They have maybe 15-20 cars on either side of an underground garage. I walked up and down the garage and then asked the girl why they didn't have a f430. She said they did, middle of the left row. I didn't find it in the middle of a bunch of 360's. Gave me pause on buying one. Would still like to own one, but since they make 5k a year, I wonder why the prices are so high....