reason why you can't leave the new GT in track mode while not running?


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Super terrible idea.

I agree. Those white ties on the springs would take a long time to install. He probably should use black ones so they blend in better.
 

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I agree. Those white ties on the springs would take a long time to install. He probably should use black ones so they blend in better.

I’m going to see if they come in Riviera (DBK) Blue


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Where's Indy's explanation? The viscoelastic, thermoplastic, turbo encabulator...
 
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Kevin, you're a GENIUS! :lol

Yeah except for the GT doesn't have an exposed coil-spring like that. LOL
 

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I imagine a line-lock system would work for your C & C mode. Place it on the line for lowering the suspension after the pump and wire the line-lock switch to the battery with an on/off switch. With the engine running, place car in max speed mode, turn ON the line-lock, turn engine off -- line-lock should hold the pressure in the line. When you re-start engine, don't forget to turn line-lock off or use a switch that detects the car being started and shuts line-lock off again.

You definitely could develop a line lock system to lock the pressure. But like Dave says it's a terrible idea..The hydraulic system is very complex. Not sure you'd want to void your warranty for the system just to be able to keep it in low mode for a while...:rolleyes

The hydraulic piping on this car is very vast and complex reminds me of the interior bay door of the Space Shuttle..:biggrin.. come on folks step right up. Pick a line any line!..:lol
 

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There is a device called an "actuator", and when it lowers, is physically compresses the internal higher riding coil spring, which then drops the car, to then ride on the lower riding torsion bars. This compression of the coil spring requires hydraulic force that is only available when the engine is running. Shut the car off, the compression is gone, and up it goes, back on the coil spring.

Im impressed!
It's stiil the coolest car at any C&C! Even if not in race mode!
 
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Ed Sims

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So, you are telling me I have to keep the engine running for the entire C&C?

Ed
 

FikseGTS

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great info, thanks everyone!
 

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Actually the hydraulic pump is electric. It runs all of the systems, aero, suspension and steering... the hydraulic pump is located in the front left corner of the car in front of the left front wheel. It's not an engine driven hydraulic pump like we have on the 05/06 car

The electric hydraulic pump would have a high amp draw and would drain the battery very quickly if the engine wasn't running and the alternator not pumping out electricity to keep up with the demand of the hydraulic pump.

Brian,

I didn’t say the hydraulic pump was engine driven, I said it only works while the engine is running and that it powers all systems that require hydraulic pressure including the power steering.

Chip
 

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I didn’t say the hydraulic pump was engine driven, I said it only works while the engine is running and that it powers all systems that require hydraulic pressure including the power steering.

"The simplest answer is that the hydraulic pressure used to power your suspension comes from the GT's hydraulic power steering pump."

Some magazines have also written that the power steering pump operates other hydraulic systems. I'll take a stab at fixing this:

The GT's electric hydraulic pump powers the active suspension, the active aero, and the steering.
 

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I really dont use emojiis (sp?) BUT...


:dead::dead::dead::dead:
 

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It may be a dead horse to you, but I guarantee I'll be hearing at Cars and Coffee for years that the GT's power steering pump operates all hydraulic systems. Just like I still hear after 13 years that the GT has a truck engine.
 

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Only if you go to Cars and Coffees for mechanics.
 

Ed Sims

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Only if you go to Cars and Coffees for mechanics.

I go there for the best coffee in the world.

Ed
 

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"The simplest answer is that the hydraulic pressure used to power your suspension comes from the GT's hydraulic power steering pump."

Some magazines have also written that the power steering pump operates other hydraulic systems. I'll take a stab at fixing this:

The GT's electric hydraulic pump powers the active suspension, the active aero, and the steering.

That's not quite correct. There's a master hydraulic system that runs different systems . steering is one of them. People don't understand it because it's never been done on a road car..

the reason people want to see it drop is because they only know airbag systems .When you deflate them allows the car to drop. this system it's not like that and completely different to what most people know.

Yea and I hear this all the time at the car shows. "Oh you mean that car has an alternator and needs electricity to operate?? oh my God how archaic I wouldn't drive it!."..:lol
 
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Brian,

I didn’t say the hydraulic pump was engine driven, I said it only works while the engine is running and that it powers all systems that require hydraulic pressure including the power steering.

Chip

Sorry for misinterpreting your post :)
 

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That's night that's not quite correct. There's a master hydraulic system that runs different systems . steering is one of them. People don't understand it because it's never been done on a road car..

the reason people want to see it drop is because they only know airbag systems .When you deflate them allows the car to drop. this system it's not like that and completely different to what most people know.

Yea and I hear this all the time at the car shows. "Oh you mean that car has an alternator and needs electricity to operate?? oh my God how archaic I wouldn't drive it!."..:lol

...and that’s why you never want to wreck the car at the front driver’s side corner, coz that’s where all the hydraulic stuff sits - I couldn’t believe the size of the frigging accumulator there when I saw my car ‘naked’ at MM
 

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Obviously not knowing this specific hydraulic system, and not owning a NGT (but very hopeful!) - it seems conceptually possible to use the accumulator to keep pressure to the lowering system. If/when the pressure gradually bleeds off, the car would slowly rise back up to its normal resting height.

But certainly there were design decisions otherwise......
 

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If the people at Cars and Coffee are not impressed by your new Ford GT because when parked it doesn’t go into “Track Mode” then there is no hope for them.


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So, you are telling me I have to keep the engine running for the entire C&C?

Ed

Haha. Genius. Problem solved. No zip ties needed.