New ZR1
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nautoncall
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Kayvan
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Problem with Vette production runs (~7yrs) is the engineering / technology is dated very quickly.
If you bought a C6 later years (~2012) you were buying 8-10 yr old technology (ie, 2002)
If you buy a C7 today you are basically buying (7yr old) 2010 development technology.
Today's sports-car consumers have little tolerance for anything dated at this price point; either Tech or design.
And with social media, isolated issues (like Z06 overheating) snowball.
My take is, a 'clean sheet' design is probably more cost effective v. re-engineering old platform like they did C5->C6.
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What the hell is it?
Gentlemen,
This new ZR1 is certainly a tremendous buy in terms of performance/price. But I just can't seem to get excited about Corvettes. What the hell is it that's missing in this mix? Perhaps it's because I can't drive one block anywhere here in Scottsdale without seeing a C7 on the road. They are everywhere. Corvette annual sales of about 33,000 is roughly 4 times annual Ferrari production which isn't a huge number BUT Corvettes are used as daily drivers and Ferrari is not which explains why you see so many.
Corvettes are like Seiko watches. Excellent in function, OK in style, and just not special. No matter how well a Seiko diving watch works, it will never have the cachet of a Rolex Sea Dweller. Unfair perhaps, but that's just the way it is.
Chip
Gentlemen,
This new ZR1 is certainly a tremendous buy in terms of performance/price. But I just can't seem to get excited about Corvettes. What the hell is it that's missing in this mix? Perhaps it's because I can't drive one block anywhere here in Scottsdale without seeing a C7 on the road. They are everywhere. Corvette annual sales of about 33,000 is roughly 4 times annual Ferrari production which isn't a huge number BUT Corvettes are used as daily drivers and Ferrari is not which explains why you see so many.
Corvettes are like Seiko watches. Excellent in function, OK in style, and just not special. No matter how well a Seiko diving watch works, it will never have the cachet of a Rolex Sea Dweller. Unfair perhaps, but that's just the way it is.
Chip
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
Ssssooooo...G.M. offers a low rear wing and a tall one. Two separate 'options'.
Why not just have one that can either be raised or lowered? 'Too simple?
(sigh) 'Too deep for me...
Why not just have one that can either be raised or lowered? 'Too simple?
(sigh) 'Too deep for me...
STORMCAT
GT
I like it !! I'm obviously a fan of the wing but it's not there for just looks, with that much power they need it to keep the butt planted in the corners... More down force and less drag than that setup on the Z06.. I'm sure it will be setting some new lap records,, wishing the new GT had another 100 ponies .. :biggrin
It's come from some good sources the mid engine car is close, I know a guy who builds exhaust systems for the big three.. and I've heard they have already submitted the tech specs to IMSA etc,, I think with Cadillac's move in the IMSA series and the elimination of the Corvette Daytona prototypes I think it might initially be branded as a Caddie,, and maybe a Chevy version later.. , I'm just saying,,,
It's come from some good sources the mid engine car is close, I know a guy who builds exhaust systems for the big three.. and I've heard they have already submitted the tech specs to IMSA etc,, I think with Cadillac's move in the IMSA series and the elimination of the Corvette Daytona prototypes I think it might initially be branded as a Caddie,, and maybe a Chevy version later.. , I'm just saying,,,
You've gotta give the V8 F-GT engineers a super star and a cigar, no Wal-Mart looking hideous rear wing/rear spoiler, and the car is very stable at speeds in excess of 200 MPH. GM Aero engineers could have done better on the wing design with a less is more approach, and the roof should have been of the fixed type.
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nautoncall
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MAD IN NC
Proud Owner/ BOD blah bla
Empty Pockets
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Kayvan
GT Owner
- Jul 13, 2006
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Seiko Grand Seiko Diver and vintage Seiko Marine Master 300M sell at Rolex prices....
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
You don't suppose the new ZR1 - not to mention the upcoming mid-engine 'Vette - has anything at all to do with this, do you?
Naaaaaaaaah...............probably not.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...-sales-crash/ar-BBFbByI?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
Naaaaaaaaah...............probably not.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...-sales-crash/ar-BBFbByI?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
I think they should have been limiting production for years.
It would help change people's perception that they aren't special. Well, at least the top tier models.
It would help change people's perception that they aren't special. Well, at least the top tier models.
fjpikul
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twobjshelbys
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Kayvan
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The c7 has aged very quickly....its already a 5yr old design. Many of the styling cues just look like from 1990s trans am.
From Blacked our rear valance that makes every color except black looked like a body kit to that shiny black plastic egg-crate grill and silver chrome strip, not to mention the two dental tips.
They screwed up the pricing once they got over $50K.
In the C6’s $43K base MSRP then stacking with GM employee discount, GM card -$2K and $1000 dealer cash, they flew off lots.
You could order the z51 parts from catalog if you wanted as your budget allowed.
Now a z51 c7 is $57K; the payments don’t work and core buyer can’t make $60K make sense
There was a dozen sitting on the lot covered in dust at a major Socal dealer I was at.
The ZR1 will be like ACR/TA and find niche buyers.
From Blacked our rear valance that makes every color except black looked like a body kit to that shiny black plastic egg-crate grill and silver chrome strip, not to mention the two dental tips.
They screwed up the pricing once they got over $50K.
In the C6’s $43K base MSRP then stacking with GM employee discount, GM card -$2K and $1000 dealer cash, they flew off lots.
You could order the z51 parts from catalog if you wanted as your budget allowed.
Now a z51 c7 is $57K; the payments don’t work and core buyer can’t make $60K make sense
There was a dozen sitting on the lot covered in dust at a major Socal dealer I was at.
The ZR1 will be like ACR/TA and find niche buyers.