Mustang Travels


RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
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As most of you know, I've been traveling the last few days - headed to Addison, Texas (a suburb of Dallas), traveling in my '66 Mustang fastback (original owner). I'm going there to attend the annual convention of the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society, one of my varied interests.

How it relates to the forum, is the travels in the Mustang (we once had a section for Mustangs).

I had replaced the original engine in the Mustang with a Ford Racing 302 last summer, topping it with a couple of 4-barrel Edelbrock carbs. It has a pretty lopey cam at idle, and it's a roller cam/roller lifters. It also has GT40 heads with roller rockers, so it scoots along pretty good. I drove it in the Arizona GT Getaway that Rich Roback put on in April, to get some feel for the reliability of the car.

In the last month or so, I changed out the rear springs (5 leaf instead of 4), replaced all the tie rods, and replaced the front springs with the '66 Mustang GT coils that were also used in the Shelby GT-350's (there were stiffer ones in the '65s). I also changed the front anti sway bar from an 11/16" diameter to a 1-1/8", which is about 2.7 times greater in cross sectional area. Finally, I added Koni adjustable shocks, as were used on the GT-350s.

I left home last Thursday morning, in the midst of a heat wave all over the southwest. Once I got to Kingman, AZ, I stayed pretty close to the old Santa Fe Railway tracks over which I had traveled often from 1951 through 1961. The tracks pretty much follow Historic Route 66 all the way to Albuquerque, NM, and are currently the mainline tracks across Arizona and New Mexico used by the BNSF Railroad. I spent the 1st night in Flagstaff, AZ, and the 2nd in Albuquerque.


The recharged Mustang performed beautifully through the heat, better than the original engine, which I ascribe to the aluminum heads and intake manifold doing a better job of dissipating the heat. I then followed the southern route (known as the Belen Cutoff), across the eastern half of New Mexico, spending the night in Clovis, NM, at the Texas border. The town of Clovis was originally built by the Santa Fe Railway and still serves as a district manager for BNSF.

Today I drove to Wichita Falls, TX, and I'll spend the night here before the short drive down to Addison. For those of you that remember Rally IV, I knew I was finally in Texas when I was filling up with gas & cleaning the windshield.


I love the stiffer suspension in the car, especially noticeable on some of the rougher, potholed sections of some of the roads.

More to come....
 

Cobrar

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Jun 24, 2006
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Metro Detroit
Great write up, sounds like a fun adventure!

Question: I didn't see it mentioned, what improvements have you done to the cooling system from original to make it work a well as it has?
 

2112

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Thanks for sharing the adventure.

Did you lower the upper control arms?

Pics of the car would be great too.
 
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DakotaGT

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Dec 9, 2012
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I enjoy reading about excursions like this, in classic iron. There is a guy right now taking his Plymouth Superbird on a trek to Alaska, and he has posted the link to his daily GoPro updates, chronicling his journey.

Ralphie, what transmission does your mustang have? I am putting a GearVendors Overdrive unit in my GTX right now, hoping to be able to do such things someday...
 
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Love this! Thank you for sharing.
 

AJB

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Jun 28, 2006
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Ralphie - nice summary. I remember the Texas Rally IV. '''Bugs as big as Birds ''.... I am still finding them stuck in various places in the front of my FGT....
andy (ajb)
 

RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
7,278
Great write up, sounds like a fun adventure!

Question: I didn't see it mentioned, what improvements have you done to the cooling system from original to make it work a well as it has?

Same radiator as before; new upper & lower hoses; New Milodon aluminum water pump; same heater hoses & heater; upped the thermostat from 160° to 180°.

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I think the main reason that it doesn't overheat is the GT40 aluminum heads and the aluminum intake manifold.
 
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RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
7,278
...Did you lower the upper control arms? ....

No - I read that they did that to the '65 GT350s, but the '66s were left in the Mustang OEM position.
 

RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
7,278
...Ralphie, what transmission does your mustang have?....

It's a stock C4. When I ordered the car, I lived in the LA area and was tired of manual transmissions in LA traffic. Never had an automatic before that (and never since). One of the next mods I want is to put a positraction on the rear end, but not change the gear ratio - it's a 2.80:1 and I'm getting 15-17 mpg. I don't want to reduce the mileage any farther, as I have a safe range of around 260 miles on a full tank.

On long drives like this, it's nice not to have to shift.
 

2112

Blue/white 06'
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I have to tease you a little bit Ralphie,

Positraction is a GM product......:lol

I know you've been on the road all day. :wink
 

roketman

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Some pictures would be nice
 

Cobraguy

GT Owner
Great read Ralphie!.....I hope to do something similar through the Rockies in my 67 Camaro one day...(It's originality is holding me back)
 

MNJason

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May 14, 2010
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Jealous! And yes PICs would be great!
 

Copenhagen GT

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Have a great trip buddy .... and keep the pictures coming :thumbsup

:cheers
Anders
 

Xcentric

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Jul 9, 2012
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Myakka City, Florida
Ralphie,

Great story!

I'm curious about the overheating discussion. Did you ever have overheating problems with this car?

I drove three 65 and 66 Mustangs...from 289 2 bbl to HiPo, all MTs...across the southern route in summer in the late 60s/early 70s and never had any overheating, except for myself. No A/C, but like you said maybe I wouldn't be an A/C pussy if modern cars had wind wings. ;)
 

FlagstaffGT

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So you were in Flagstaff and didn't contact Arlette and I? SHAME! My (doctor) daughter is getting my 65 convertible, after an all new Dynacorn body and added power steering and discs brakes.
 
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Lightning

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May 9, 2006
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Hutchinson, Kansas
Ralphie, if you can go back I-35 come see us. Have a great trip!
Vince
 

RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
7,278
...I'm curious about the overheating discussion. Did you ever have overheating problems with this car?....

With the 2-barrel, it used to overheat to the point of vapor-lock when running above 90 mph (90 to 110) on warm August days. This happened a few times on the way to the Monterey Historics back in the '80s when running through the long sweepers on CA-46 between Lost Hills and Paso Robles (there was no traffic). The temp gauge would peg, and I would put into neutral and coast down to around 40-50 mph, whereupon it would restart and continue on.

This was with a 3 row radiator, as opposed to the 2 row that was original, and was replaced in the late '70s.
 

RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
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So you were in Flagstaff and didn't contact Arlette and I? SHAME! My (doctor) daughter is getting my 65 convertible, after an all new Dynacorn body and added power steering and discs brakes.


Thought about calling you, Barry - but got in pretty late. I got through Kingman between 1 & 2, but spent some time along the tracks. Had a late lunch at the "Road-Kill Cafe" in Seligman (Arizona GT Getaway 1 lunch spot) around 3, so I decided to skip dinner that night, and fiddled around in Williams taking pics of some RR bridges that still have painted Santa Fe logos. Your daughter will love the '65 'vert'.
 

RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
7,278
Ralphie, if you can go back I-35 come see us. Have a great trip!
Vince

Thanks, Vince! If it wasn't so close to July 4th, I would definitely stop by. However, I won't be leaving the Dallas area until Sunday morning, and need to stop in San Diego before getting back to the High Sierras, and I want to be home before the 4th. Isn't I-35 still flooded in Oklahoma?