I can't believe this is really going to happen anytime soon...
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...1109944/bob-lutz:-kiss-the-good-times-goodbye
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...1109944/bob-lutz:-kiss-the-good-times-goodbye
I hope he is way off base...
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BlackICE
GT Owner
I agree with the Lulz's view of the future of personal transportation. The question isn't if it is going to happen, but when is it going to happen. First metropolitan areas will mandate this through legislation and slowly it will spread. However I don't see rapid adoption in area of low population density like Montana, North Dakota, Alaska... where such a system doesn't make economic sense.
Drive them while you can!
Drive them while you can!
Vince H
GT Owner
GTdrummer
GT Owner
I have been in contact with him about this for some time. Bob is not backing off and he has a good track record of being right.
Gentlemen,
Sitting in my desk are several one frame cartoons I really like. One of them shows a dog in a business suit sitting in a job interview. After being asked by the interviewer, “Where do you see yourself 20 years from now?” the dog sadly responds, “I don’t really want to think about that”.
As my future lifespan grows shorter I am more and more joyful that I’m alive today in the waning years of the sovereign individual. I fly my own plane, pilot my own boat, drive my own cars, and travel wherever and whenever I please, often with my personal firearms to hunt in a faroff land. My grandson will not enjoy nearly as many freedoms as I have. Time marches on. There are many things on the horizon that I won’t miss one bit if I fail to live that long.
Chip
Sitting in my desk are several one frame cartoons I really like. One of them shows a dog in a business suit sitting in a job interview. After being asked by the interviewer, “Where do you see yourself 20 years from now?” the dog sadly responds, “I don’t really want to think about that”.
As my future lifespan grows shorter I am more and more joyful that I’m alive today in the waning years of the sovereign individual. I fly my own plane, pilot my own boat, drive my own cars, and travel wherever and whenever I please, often with my personal firearms to hunt in a faroff land. My grandson will not enjoy nearly as many freedoms as I have. Time marches on. There are many things on the horizon that I won’t miss one bit if I fail to live that long.
Chip
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twobjshelbys
GT Owner
Inevitable, as technology advances to deal with congestion in high density areas and public transportaion can't keep up. His prediction will be what happens in high density areas and will become the new public transportation.
Gonna be hard to convince places like Alliance Nebraska to sign up.
Gonna be hard to convince places like Alliance Nebraska to sign up.
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
"On the freeway, it will merge seamlessly into a stream of other modules traveling at 120, 150 mph..."
...until it doesn't.
"Everyone will have 5 years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap"
I was unaware one's personal vehicles were / could be subject to "eminent domain"...
...until it doesn't.
"Everyone will have 5 years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap"
I was unaware one's personal vehicles were / could be subject to "eminent domain"...
BlackICE
GT Owner
the government won't confiscate your cars parked in the garage. They just won't allow on the public roadways.
w.a.nelson
GT Owner
texas mongrel
GT Owner
We took an Uber autonomous vehicle a couple of months ago in Pittsburgh, it was a Volvo SUV. During our fifteen minute ride the driver had to intervene five times, and once the car slammed its brakes on for no apparent reason. The two tech guys explained that they have to drive a route five or six times minimum before the car “learned” its landscape. Multiply that process over every road in America and I think I’ll be long dead before we have totally autonomus transportation. Sure, urban centres might get it within, say, a decade, but the fun roads will always be ours!
Beach-GT
GT Owner
If you went to sleep 200 years ago and woke up today imagine what it would be like. So if you go to sleep today and wake up in 50 years it will probably be the same experience.
This is disturbing to think about. I, too, hope I'm not around when this happens.
If our timing is wrong, I think we should pool our resources and purchase a large amount of real estate that we can build roads on. An island, part of a desert...it doesn't matter.
If our timing is wrong, I think we should pool our resources and purchase a large amount of real estate that we can build roads on. An island, part of a desert...it doesn't matter.
Triheart7
GT Owner
If this comes around, probably I will have some form of dementia. Then I won't know what's changed and won't care. Boy is that depressing, I like what Chip said better.
2112
Blue/white 06'
I can read the frustration in Lutz's piece. He is a car guy and has devoted most of his life towards the "fun" segment of the automobile industry.
I think he is spot-on. I share his frustration. And being a life-long car guy, I lament the impending death of the world of freedom the car has brought us. (Yes, Chip said it much better).
As I converse with other car guys, I am surprised how many believe, because they love cars too, that the future Lutz predicts just can't come true. The thing is, especially in large Metro areas, a majority of the population expects the government to solve this problem. The problem of a infrastructure system designed to accommodate a country of 170 million people wallow under the weight of nearly twice that many people. Not even going to address the Climate change issue but it is also a huge factor.
This time around, the government can't build it's way out of the problem. Even if it wanted to, the politics of today would never allow it. It will be so much easier, and from the government's point of view, liberating, to allow the privatized fleets, as Lutz described, assume responsibility......and control of most if not all phases of personal transportation. All the government will have to do, as Clinton said, is legislate cars off the highways. Not hard to do now, and politically, more doable every day.
I think he is spot-on. I share his frustration. And being a life-long car guy, I lament the impending death of the world of freedom the car has brought us. (Yes, Chip said it much better).
As I converse with other car guys, I am surprised how many believe, because they love cars too, that the future Lutz predicts just can't come true. The thing is, especially in large Metro areas, a majority of the population expects the government to solve this problem. The problem of a infrastructure system designed to accommodate a country of 170 million people wallow under the weight of nearly twice that many people. Not even going to address the Climate change issue but it is also a huge factor.
This time around, the government can't build it's way out of the problem. Even if it wanted to, the politics of today would never allow it. It will be so much easier, and from the government's point of view, liberating, to allow the privatized fleets, as Lutz described, assume responsibility......and control of most if not all phases of personal transportation. All the government will have to do, as Clinton said, is legislate cars off the highways. Not hard to do now, and politically, more doable every day.
2112
Blue/white 06'
As I read thru the comments, I see quite a few commentators who see the world Lutz described as positive.
The that would mirror what I hear/read here in the Seattle metro area.
The that would mirror what I hear/read here in the Seattle metro area.
Fubar
Totally ****** Up
Not to worry Gentlemen, new laws on the books, as of September 1st, 2017, that prevent a person from being arrested for misdemeanor offenses, those laws also add that courts cannot issues warrants if a person does not appear for their hearings on the aforementioned misdemeanor. So you will be able to drive your cars wherever and whenever you like, while it may not be legal, there is no punishment. You will be able to giggle at the officer as he issues you the citation for “driving a car” and then feel free to use the ticket paper to roll a doobie (less than 2oz please) in the presence of an officer, without any fear of arrest. The future... what a world?
BlackICE
GT Owner
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
And, from a practical standpoint, the difference IS...?
Regardless, me things you missed my point. :wink