This topic has quite a history on this forum, mostly on the OEM halfshaft bolts and Ford’s first fix. But this involves loosening of the Ford Upgrade Bolt kit, which as I understand is Ford’s second and final fix.
I had a leaking output shaft seal and decided to replace both sides. Pretty sure it was the seal and not the halfshaft/flange joint, since the oil was leaking down the transaxle housing from the seal. It was not leaking off the heat shield below the halfshaft. I also cleaned everything and the joints stayed dry, the seal still leaked oil.
Before I removed the halfshafts, I measured the radial play to be 0.010” on the passenger side and 0.015” on the driver side. After installation of the ARP kit below, the radial play was 0.002” – 0.004” on both sides. This was measured on the halfshaft side of the halfshaft/flange mating surface.
Upon disassembly, I found that the two bolts holding the splined flange to the output shaft were loose on both sides. They were positioned to the point where they would be if they were hand tightened. The bolts had, what looked like, factory applied blue loctite. This kit was originally installed at a Ford dealership on April 2008 with 8,200 miles on the car. The car now has 20,000 miles. It is possible, although unlikely, that these were loosely installed and then neglected to be torqued. My assumption is the bolts loosened soon after they were installed; maybe they would have stayed like this forever with no problem?????
Here is a theory on what happened with these bolts:
I installed the ARP bolt and washer kit sold by Accufab. My feeling is that the ARP is superior to the Ford kit. I know the alloy and specs of the ARP bolts, which doesn’t really make them superior, but I know what I have. AND, the ARP bolts are drilled for safety wire. I did safety wire tie the two bolts and I also used blue loctite for overkill. The safety wire should hold the bolts from rotating. I also used Permatex Gear Oil RTV Gasket Maker (the green tube) to seal the flange/shaft/washer spline area, per Ford TSB 06-23-8. I even safety wire tied the six bolts holding the halfshaft to the flange. Another case of overkill, but I am retired, have time and I needed to freshen up my wire tie skills.
The bolt kit pic attached, shows the Ford update kit that I removed. The other two attached pics show the installed wire tie drilled ARP bolts. Per ARP tech info, the ARP recommend torque applies stress to their bolts to 75% of yield, so these bolts are not torque-to-yield and therefore should be good to reuse. The Accufab instructions recommended torque is equal to the ARP recommended torque for these bolts. Actually, the two small bolts are torqued somewhat less than 75% torque level. You can see the gray Permatex Gear Oil RTV sealer squeezing out around the circumference of the washer.
Hope this is helpful to someone. I read where another forum member, in the long past, had this same issue twice with the Ford upgrade bolt kit. I did not see what the member did for a successful fix. Anyone else ever hear of the Ford Upgrade Kit bolts loosening? Or, any problems with the ARP kit?
I had a leaking output shaft seal and decided to replace both sides. Pretty sure it was the seal and not the halfshaft/flange joint, since the oil was leaking down the transaxle housing from the seal. It was not leaking off the heat shield below the halfshaft. I also cleaned everything and the joints stayed dry, the seal still leaked oil.
Before I removed the halfshafts, I measured the radial play to be 0.010” on the passenger side and 0.015” on the driver side. After installation of the ARP kit below, the radial play was 0.002” – 0.004” on both sides. This was measured on the halfshaft side of the halfshaft/flange mating surface.
Upon disassembly, I found that the two bolts holding the splined flange to the output shaft were loose on both sides. They were positioned to the point where they would be if they were hand tightened. The bolts had, what looked like, factory applied blue loctite. This kit was originally installed at a Ford dealership on April 2008 with 8,200 miles on the car. The car now has 20,000 miles. It is possible, although unlikely, that these were loosely installed and then neglected to be torqued. My assumption is the bolts loosened soon after they were installed; maybe they would have stayed like this forever with no problem?????
Here is a theory on what happened with these bolts:
- The splined flange is a snug hand slip fit on the output shaft. As this is not a press fit, a micro amount of rotational clearance/play exists between the flange and shaft.
- The two small bolts do not provide adequate clamping force/friction to keep the flange and shaft from rotating this micro amount of clearance on each other under significant torque. Similar flange/yoke assemblies use large nuts torqued to 150 lb-ft or more that will friction lock the flange and shaft together, except possibly for that first high torque launch which will set the splines tight to each other.
- So, with these small bolts, each time the axle experiences significant torque flip-flop back and forth, the flange rotates on the shaft the micro amount of rotational clearance.
- The washer under the two bolts stays tight to the flange and rotates with the flange the micro amount of clearance relative to the shaft.
- The bolts are threaded in the shaft, so the washer moves a rotational micro amount under the bolt heads each time the axle torque flip-flops.
- This rotational micro movement of the washer under the bolts slowly loosens the two bolts over time.
- This rotational bolt loosening continues until the washer is loose enough under the bolts that the washer no longer applies loosening torque on the bolts. Thus, the bolts loosen to about hand tight. The factory applied loctite will then hold them in this position, hopefully.
I installed the ARP bolt and washer kit sold by Accufab. My feeling is that the ARP is superior to the Ford kit. I know the alloy and specs of the ARP bolts, which doesn’t really make them superior, but I know what I have. AND, the ARP bolts are drilled for safety wire. I did safety wire tie the two bolts and I also used blue loctite for overkill. The safety wire should hold the bolts from rotating. I also used Permatex Gear Oil RTV Gasket Maker (the green tube) to seal the flange/shaft/washer spline area, per Ford TSB 06-23-8. I even safety wire tied the six bolts holding the halfshaft to the flange. Another case of overkill, but I am retired, have time and I needed to freshen up my wire tie skills.
The bolt kit pic attached, shows the Ford update kit that I removed. The other two attached pics show the installed wire tie drilled ARP bolts. Per ARP tech info, the ARP recommend torque applies stress to their bolts to 75% of yield, so these bolts are not torque-to-yield and therefore should be good to reuse. The Accufab instructions recommended torque is equal to the ARP recommended torque for these bolts. Actually, the two small bolts are torqued somewhat less than 75% torque level. You can see the gray Permatex Gear Oil RTV sealer squeezing out around the circumference of the washer.
Hope this is helpful to someone. I read where another forum member, in the long past, had this same issue twice with the Ford upgrade bolt kit. I did not see what the member did for a successful fix. Anyone else ever hear of the Ford Upgrade Kit bolts loosening? Or, any problems with the ARP kit?
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