FGT in Middle TN
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Sinovac
GT Owner
Nice to see appreciation and knowledge for the early 911. Definitely old school without the driver's aids so prevalent in present cars. I appreciate the second generation turbo, '79 turbo with CIS, for it's simplicity, rawness and history. I was told that during production cars would be pulled off at random, customer cars and then those redirected to the RSR program. Interesting history to be sure. I've enjoyed the comments to this thread. Would appreciate anyone's perspective re. FordGT ownership, especially comparisons, if any to Porsche.
dr914
GT Owner
Excellent car to own that is for sure, the 73.5 t cis was certainly the best of the breed back then for a smooth daily fun driver, and is now highly sought after (the S models of course selling for the most) Porsche really wound up ruining the car in 1974 with the case stud hot running 2.7 and the crash bumpers!
PeteK
GT Owner
It was the last model of the pre-safety-bumper 911's--that's why I bought it in 1992. A lot of people replace the CIS with carbs, but I actually like the CIS. I think it's pretty easy to troubleshoot and work on and it gives more even consistent performance and drivability, however, the carb setup greatly simplifies the engine compartment. Carbs also can make use of more aggressive cams and produce more power, whereas the CIS is sensitive to too much valve overlap.
Did I mention that I built a 3.0 SC Euro motor for it with SSI stainless headers and heater boxes? I put that in 20+ years ago, and then the project sat. With that engine (probably around 230 HP) in the light early body (around 2300 lbs), it scoots. Unfortunately, I traded the original engine in part for the SC engine, so I don't have that anymore. Too bad, because the original engine case# probably adds $20K to the value. Oh well, I don't intend to sell it, just drive the piss out of it!
dr914
GT Owner
It is actually nice these days to have one you can drive. The cars are worth so much now that they are virtually museum pieces and with the fact that you can purchase a low mile 2000s 911 for a fraction, we all buy and drive the hell out of those and keep our through 73 models for display and car shows.
Much like what happened with our Ford GTs, I bought mine originally to drive every day and did in the beginning, then the prices went out of sight! So now the 2000s 911s are the "beaters"
Much like what happened with our Ford GTs, I bought mine originally to drive every day and did in the beginning, then the prices went out of sight! So now the 2000s 911s are the "beaters"
PeteK
GT Owner
I assume from your handle that you have been a 914 connoisseur. I went through 3 of those and beat the snot out of them. Now even those are becoming collectible--probably because there are so few left in decent shape.
Someday over beers I'll tell you the story of the highly original 1971 914-6 that I didn't buy in 1990 for $3000 because it was "too expensive!"
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dr914
GT Owner
yup that was then this is now. Our biggest part seller is now Cayenne, just because of the numbers. Yet we still love the 914 and have what Porsche calls the world's best 914 collection here, including the old R&T cover car, one of a kind for America Porsche 916. 911 parts sales are second to the cayenne, and then boxster
Back then, porscheaudi could not give away those 914-6 models! Because of that they wisely did not produce the 916 other than the 11 prototypes. One of them ,"brutus" we just finished restoring and is headed for Jay Leno garage next month
QUOTE=PeteK;465251]I assume from your handle that you have been a 914 connoisseur. I went through 3 of those and beat the snot out of them. Now even those are becoming collectible--probably because there are so few left in decent shape.
Someday over beers I'll tell you the story of the highly original 1971 914-6 that I didn't buy in 1990 for $3000 because it was "too expensive!"[/QUOTE]
Back then, porscheaudi could not give away those 914-6 models! Because of that they wisely did not produce the 916 other than the 11 prototypes. One of them ,"brutus" we just finished restoring and is headed for Jay Leno garage next month
QUOTE=PeteK;465251]I assume from your handle that you have been a 914 connoisseur. I went through 3 of those and beat the snot out of them. Now even those are becoming collectible--probably because there are so few left in decent shape.
Someday over beers I'll tell you the story of the highly original 1971 914-6 that I didn't buy in 1990 for $3000 because it was "too expensive!"[/QUOTE]
dr914
GT Owner
PeteK
GT Owner
DanQ
GT Owner
I'll try and answer the OP questions. The GT is easier and cheaper to maintain. It doesn't leak oil. It is much harder to park and see out of. It feels very wide compared to an old 911. The GT is harder to get in and out of. It doesn't have much luggage space. It has so much more torque it throws you back in the seat, so you can be lazy shifting it.
The 911 is a much more usable car, but it's not as much of an "event" to drive it. The 911 feels lighter and more nimble, and you can see everything. No torque so you must row the gears to go fast.
Both have good brakes.
I had a '95 993 C2 and currently have a '15 991.1 C2S with a manual
The 911 is a much more usable car, but it's not as much of an "event" to drive it. The 911 feels lighter and more nimble, and you can see everything. No torque so you must row the gears to go fast.
Both have good brakes.
I had a '95 993 C2 and currently have a '15 991.1 C2S with a manual
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Thanks for the reply to my initial question. Appreciate your comments regarding the differences between the two. Was thinking the costs to maintain would be higher but apparently not so; care to elaborate? A friend who preps Porsches for the track but has experience with the GT indicated the Riccardo (sp?) transmission needed attention regularly. Also, who in the Nashville area services/has experience with these cars?