Documentary about building the gt


BillyRay

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GT Story

Hey lighten up Francis...

Boys good news I just found 5 copies on Amazon, the DVD is " Ford GT story ". I just paid $ 29.95 for a new copy even though this may not be the exact DVD you are looking for it appears to be a good one.
The way I see it footage on this supercar is always entertaining!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy viewing
Billy

http://www.amazon.com/Ford-GT-40-Story/dp/B000HXE5II/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1243623134&sr=1-2


Here ya go
 

Gulf GT

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Hey lighten up Francis...
:lol

I'm glad someone else remembers that! I don't feel so old.
 

Indy GT

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Hey me too!
Bill Murry is a classic in that movie!
 

ChipBeck

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Snagged.

Hey lighten up Francis...

Boys, good news! I just found 5 copies on Amazon.

Just bought one, now they're down to two.

Chip
 

Triheart7

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The day I found my GT, being sold used by a local Mercedes dealer. I came home and the GT episode on Discovery channel was on TV. I went back to the dealership and bought the car the next day. The guy who sold me the car was amazed how much I knew about the car. All I knew was from the Discovery program!

Also, it was cool to meet the engineers, that were featured in the Discovery program, at the Rally last year.
 

t32b

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I'm sorry but I must strongly disagree. Out of print or not, these materials (the DVD, not the car parts) are covered by copyright law. I agree that it is inconvenient to abide by the rules under these circumstances, but lets try this one.
I'm an executive in the software business and have been one for many years. We often EOL (end of life) a version of a product, to replace it with an upgraded version. At some point, we no longer sell the old version. Is it OK for customers to start copying the old one because they can't buy it any longer? Would the copying of those materials impact the sale of the new version? At the limit, wouldn't that preclude subsequent investments in those products?
These days, intellectual property and copyrighted laws are under enormous pressure for those rules to be changed. But until they are, they were the rules that governed the creation of those materials and continue to be relevant throughout their lifetime.
Now regarding the car parts that are no longer in production, I haven't a clue.


Gentlemen,

I wouldn't be quite so harsh here as stealing merchandise from a Wal-Mart involves economic damage and results in a genuine financial loss. The DVD in question appears to have been taken out of production permanently and is unavailable for new purchase at any price. Let me point out that many of the parts that will be required to keep our cars on the road or to repair them after any body damage are also permanently out of production. Like that DVD, many of us will be reproducing parts that the the Ford Motor Company has designed and probably owns the rights to. We are currently reproducing billet clamshell vents and side vents that are virtual exact copies (except material) of a part that the Ford Motor Company designed. Are we stealing?

If that DVD (or Genuine Ford Parts) are available, I'm right there with you. Reproducing them is stealing. But once they're permanently out of production, no economic damage ensues when one makes a copy. And at least as regards our cars, unless we are willing to make those copies, the Ford GT will soon become a static display. At least that's my take on it.

Chip
 

racelance

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Here's an old thread about the video you guys are looking for (now I'm looking for):

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=80401

Cheers,

Lance
 

AtomicGT

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I just received it from NetFlix, burned a DVD copy and converted it to iPod format. Sending it back for $4.00
 

t32b

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Amazing.
 

racelance

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I'm not saying this company is in business still, but it appears they have the DVD:

DVD link

Here's a pretty neat PDF file of the brochure for the show.

Enjoy,

Lance
 

nota4re

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I just received it from NetFlix, burned a DVD copy and converted it to iPod format. Sending it back for $4.00

:frown Sad.
 

AtomicGT

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:frown Sad.

??? Personal use only, iPod conversion goes on my iPod video for projection through my crystal view projection glasses for use on trans-Atlantic flights.

:wink :biggrin happy???

"Quick to Judge often makes Regrets" - Charlie Chan
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Any of the commenters in here ever downloaded images of Ford GTs from the internet for you own personal use or storage? Anyone download the videos of the orignal FGT Super Bowl add for your own personal use? Did you get permission before you downloaded them?
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The moral high ground is a great pulpit, unfortunately frequently occupied.......
 
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spddmnjay

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I just order the GT40 Story and Rebuilding a Race Car Legend. Thanks so much for the links my friends. :thumbsup
 

texas mongrel

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SR Publications seem to be legit - just ordered a cop, so we'll see what happens.
I guess that means I'm now off the Cooltech black list?
 

ChipBeck

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I'm sorry but I must strongly disagree. Out of print or not, these materials (the DVD, not the car parts) are covered by copyright law. I agree that it is inconvenient to abide by the rules under these circumstances, but lets try this one.
I'm an executive in the software business and have been one for many years. We often EOL (end of life) a version of a product, to replace it with an upgraded version. At some point, we no longer sell the old version. Is it OK for customers to start copying the old one because they can't buy it any longer? Would the copying of those materials impact the sale of the new version? At the limit, wouldn't that preclude subsequent investments in those products?
These days, intellectual property and copyrighted laws are under enormous pressure for those rules to be changed. But until they are, they were the rules that governed the creation of those materials and continue to be relevant throughout their lifetime.
Now regarding the car parts that are no longer in production, I haven't a clue.

Gentlemen,

This subject has stirred up some real passion and heated debate based upon some of the PM's I have received along with demands that I delete some of the posts contained here. I am not a copyright attorney and my opinion is certainly not the end all, but I have done a little research. And yes, there are many instances where copying software, CDs, and DVDs is completely legal. Although music on a CD is copyrighted, United States law allows for the owner of the CD to make up to five backup copies for his own use as long as that music is not distributed, sold, or used for commercial purposes. Let me remind you that every time you set your VCR machine to record a program while you're off to dinner so that you may watch it later you are making a copy of a copyrighted program. Is the resulting tape in your VCR illegal contraband? When the Discovery Channel shows "Ford GT-Rebuilding a Race Car Legend", and I record it on my Cox cable DVR, I have just made a copy of a copyrighted program. Is the contents of my DVR illegal contraband and if so, why hasn't Cox communications been taken to court? As regards software, when I download it onto my computer, I am making a copy of it on my machine and the original disks then go into a drawer as a backup.

Every time you download one of your music CDs onto your iPod, you have just made a copy of a copyrighted album. Is your iPod now illegal contraband?

There is one thing that makes copying some DVDs illegal. It's called the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which states that it's illegal to break the CSS copy-protection mechanism employed by most commercial DVD movies.

What does that mean? Most fair-use advocates say that the policy directly contradicts U.S. copyright law, but the DMCA seems to indicate that you cannot make a copy of a commercial DVD, even for personal use, and you certainly cannot give a copied DVD to anyone or watch copied DVD files on your computer.

The ability to create copies of the media you've purchased for personal use is a long-accepted facet of the fair-use doctrine in U.S. copyright law (at least, it used to be). However I assume that fair use will eventually catch up and be established as a safety valve for consumers (which has been the pattern with previous technologies, such as VHS), but for now, the territory is still uncertain and a bit dangerous." * (quoted from an Internet legal source on this topic)

In short, when I buy software, music CDs, or DVDs, I have the right to view them and to back them up. I don't have the right to make copies to sell or distribute or to make additional copies of software to use on additional computers. In the case of DVDs, it is illegal (only in the U.S.) to circumvent the DMCA copyright protection software even for the purposes of making a personal backup copy.

As to renting a DVD and dumping it into my DVR so that I may view it later or storing a copy of that DVD using some other storage mechanism so that I may view it later (but not distribute it), the laws are vague and contradictory.

Finally, if anybody posted any material offering illegally copied materials for sale or free distribution, I would delete that post and shut down the thread. I have not seen anything like that here. Perhaps I'm just a legal simpleton, but the first time I watched that Ford GT show I was watching a copy recorded on my Cox HD DVR. That copy still exists on my DVR and I may view it any time I wish. Perhaps I am a criminal too and both Cox Communications and Chip Beck should be sitting in a jail cell somewhere.

Chip
 
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t32b

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Well put Chip. And although I too am not an IP attorney, I have been involved in a number of highly visible court cases involving IP so many of the issues have been beaten in to me.
But on the personal use front, no issue. My mildly heated remarks were based on an interpretation of certain comments implying that actions would transcend personal use.
Thank you for wrapping this up no nicely.

Gentlemen,

This subject has stirred up some real passion and heated debate based upon some of the PM's I have received along with demands that I delete some of the posts contained here. I am not a copyright attorney and my opinion is certainly not the end all, but I have done a little research. And yes, there are many instances where copying software, CDs, and DVDs is completely legal. Although music on a CD is copyrighted, United States law allows for the owner of the CD to make up to five backup copies for his own use as long as that music is not distributed, sold, or used for commercial purposes. Let me remind you that every time you set your VCR machine to record a program while you're off to dinner so that you may watch it later you are making a copy of a copyrighted program. Is the resulting tape in your VCR illegal contraband? When the Discovery Channel shows "Ford GT-Rebuilding a Race Car Legend", and I record it on my Cox cable DVR, I have just made a copy of a copyrighted program. Is the contents of my DVR illegal contraband and if so, why hasn't Cox communications been taken to court? As regards software, when I download it onto my computer, I am making a copy of it on my machine and the original disks then go into a drawer as a backup.

Every time you download one of your music CDs onto your iPod, you have just made a copy of a copyrighted album. Is your iPod now illegal contraband?

There is one thing that makes copying some DVDs illegal. It's called the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which states that it's illegal to break the CSS copy-protection mechanism employed by most commercial DVD movies.

What does that mean? Most fair-use advocates say that the policy directly contradicts U.S. copyright law, but the DMCA seems to indicate that you cannot make a copy of a commercial DVD, even for personal use, and you certainly cannot give a copied DVD to anyone or watch copied DVD files on your computer.

The ability to create copies of the media you've purchased for personal use is a long-accepted facet of the fair-use doctrine in U.S. copyright law (at least, it used to be). However I assume that fair use will eventually catch up and be established as a safety valve for consumers (which has been the pattern with previous technologies, such as VHS), but for now, the territory is still uncertain and a bit dangerous." * (quoted from an Internet legal source on this topic)

In short, when I buy software, music CDs, or DVDs, I have the right to view them and to back them up. I don't have the right to make copies to sell or distribute or to make additional copies of software to use on additional computers. In the case of DVDs, it is illegal (only in the U.S.) to circumvent the DMCA copyright protection software even for the purposes of making a personal backup copy.

As to renting a DVD and dumping it into my DVR so that I may view it later or storing a copy of that DVD using some other storage mechanism so that I may view it later (but not distribute it), the laws are vague and contradictory.

Finally, if anybody posted any material offering illegally copied materials for sale or free distribution, I would delete that post and shut down the thread. I have not seen anything like that here. Perhaps I'm just a legal simpleton, but the first time I watched that Ford GT show I was watching a copy recorded on my Cox HD DVR. That copy still exists on my DVR and I may view it any time I wish. Perhaps I am a criminal too and both Cox Communications and Chip Beck should be sitting in a jail cell somewhere.

Chip
 

AtomicGT

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I am sure glad you guys got this all straightened out
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roketman

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Chip ,
I must say I agree with you in many ways ,stealing is stealing .The personal use issue seems logical .Well said !
But I ask you, being a law abiding citizen do you ever go over the posted speed limit !!!!
Just a funny thought !!
 

ChipBeck

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Mostly law-abiding, always honor bound.

Chip ,
I must say I agree with you in many ways ,stealing is stealing .The personal use issue seems logical .Well said !
But I ask you, being a law abiding citizen do you ever go over the posted speed limit !!!!
Just a funny thought !!

Roketman,

That thought made me reflect. This Forum and it's members are a refuge for many of us. An island of self-reliance, personal responsibility, and good fellowship where the concept of honor is still alive and well. Those qualities that make the Ford GT Forum such a wonderful place to spend a little time each day appear to be in retreat throughout the rest of our society.

It is common to witness our members going out of their way, even at personal expense, to render assistance to total strangers whose only connection to them is their interest in this car. They concern themselves primarily with what is right, what is just, and what is fair as opposed to what is merely legal. Weather or crowded conditions may render a legal speed unjust and reckless. Remote and barren conditions may render an illegal speed a harmless diversion.

The code of honor that appears to be the norm here makes me perfectly comfortable running up an unsecured $4000 dinner tab at one of our local functions, and allows Shadowman to ship out $10,000 worth of powder coated aluminum vents to owners without payment or any type of contract, secure in the knowledge that payment will come even though the law doesn't require it.

This type of individual doesn't have pirated music or movies on his computer. He pays his way and then some. He does many things that the law does not require, because he views them as either just, or to assist a fellow man. But he is also aware that in the course of his everyday life, he will probably, often unwittingly, violate dozens of the laws contained in over 100,000 pages of governmental rules.

And so you do the best you can do, secure in the knowledge that, if a man keeps his personal honor intact, he won't go too far wrong.

Chip
 

HiloDave

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Very well said, Chip. I am honored to be a member of this great group.