Car wont start !

[steved57]

Hey guys,
As you all know I am rebuilding my 2005 Quicksilver GT, and last April I had been working on it everyday for a couple months so I took a break till a couple days ago ! Anyway last night I needed to start the car (get air out of power steering system) and I cannot get it to start ! The battery is fully charged, it spins over like it should. Since it had been several months since I started it I held accelerator to the floor and cranked for about 30 seconds.
I then tried cranking with out any input to the pedal and nothing. I then barely pumped the pedal and it tried to start, just barely firing for 1 - 2 seconds. I then tried over and over and over, pumping pedal, not pumping pedal etc... etc... I even waited five minutes between tries to see if that would make any difference. The fuel gauge shows 1/3 tank and I used Stabil in the fuel several months ago (it would crank right up at that time) What am I doing wrong ?
Any ideas anyone ??

Thanks

Steve

 

[Shadowman]

All that you did is fine; it sounds like ??? the fuel pump is not coming on line

FYI pumping the pedal does NADA.

I would check all fuses and then repeat the process.

Hang in there as you are getting very close

Shadowman

 

[steved57]

Ah ha !! Thanks for the input as its the first thing Ill check when I get home !
Is that fuse in the box under the front hood ?

Thanks

Steve

 

[Shadowman]

Ah ha !! Thanks for the input as its the first thing Ill check when I get home !
Is that fuse in the box under the front hood ?

Thanks

Steve

Steve

There are fuses and relays in box under the bonnet for the fuel pumps and the fuel pump drivers and then in the passenger footwell area there is at least one fuse too

Takes care

Shadowman

 

[nota4re]

To augment Shadowman's input please note that modern fuel injected cars - the GT included, will only run the fuel pump for about 3 seconds without the ECU confirmation that the engine has fired. It wasn't always like this, as it used to be that with the key on the pump would run until the system is pressurized. The change was made for safety reasons and it makes re-firing a car without a fuel prime a bit harder. In these scenarios, the trick would be to turn the key on and off numerous times. With each key-to-on turn you are going to get a couple of seconds of fuel pump turning. You can get the system primed this way. Of course, this assumes that the fuel pump is operational - to which Shadowman gives good advice on where to look.

 

[Shadowman]

To augment Shadowman's input please note that modern fuel injected cars - the GT included, will only run the fuel pump for about 3 seconds without the ECU confirmation that the engine has fired. It wasn't always like this, as it used to be that with the key on the pump would run until the system is pressurized. The change was made for safety reasons and it makes re-firing a car without a fuel prime a bit harder. In these scenarios, the trick would be to turn the key on and off numerous times. With each key-to-on turn you are going to get a couple of seconds of fuel pump turning. You can get the system primed this way. Of course, this assumes that the fuel pump is operational - to which Shadowman gives good advice on where to look.

nota4re:

Cycling the key was a very good suggestion

Takes care

Shadowman

 

[steved57]

Good morning guys,
Well I tried again last night and the car will not start. In my owners manual I found there are fuses in "both" fuse boxes under the bonnet however my book (unless I just missed it) I didnt see one listed in the footwell fuse box. I think I have bad fuel even though I used Stabil, so I decided to filled the fuel tank to full with fresh fuel hoping to dilute the bad fuel and it seems to get closer to starting as it ran maybe a second or two longer than before !. I did not know about cycling the key so I will try that next.

Thanks

Steve

I suppose starting fluid is a BIG No No ?

 

[DanQ]

This probably won't help but I'll throw it out there. Does the GT have an inertia switch that needs to be reset? Other cars have a switch that trips off the fuel pump if the car gets rear-ended or hit. The relay needs to be reset in order to allow the fuel pump to work again.

 

[steved57]

I know the car has an inertia switch as I remember seeing it in the shop manual - however I dont know how it would have tripped as I was able to start the car a couple months ago, but it is something worth checking so thanks for mentioning it.

Steve

 

[tmcphail]

does it throw any specific DTC's ?

 

[steved57]

excuse my ignorance but DTC's ? Whats that ?

Steve

 

[tmcphail]

Diagnostic trouble codes. That would help out tremendously if you could code scan it instead of guess what's happening.

 

[steved57]

At this point I dont know that i have any way to scan it. Would that be with the Ford diagnostic scanner ?

 

[tmcphail]

You can use any OBD2 code reader, SCT device, you have a ton of options.

 

[Neilda]

Is the clutch switch operating?

As the clutch has to be depressed to start the engine, I wonder if there's a small switch somewhere that's not doing what it should do? **





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[shelbyelite]

Is the clutch switch operating?

As the clutch has to be depressed to start the engine, I wonder if there's a small switch somewhere that's not doing what it should do? **





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Car would not even turn over if the clutch switch was not working....

 

[Neilda]

Car would not even turn over if the clutch switch was not working....

This is why my disclaimer is so important! :lol

 

[Empty Pockets]

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:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl :thumbsup :cheers

 

[LeonardK]

What about the switch that is under the throttle that stops the car from starting if the pedal is fully depressed? That allows the motor to turn over but not start as in the proceedure to use after changing the oil.

 

[tmcphail]

What about the switch that is under the throttle that stops the car from starting if the pedal is fully depressed? That allows the motor to turn over but not start as in the proceedure to use after changing the oil.

There isn't one that is based on TPSv