Best use of holiday weekend

[twobjshelbys]

please comment on the use of the 'waterless' waxing. Does it not create microscopic scratches and swirl marks on dark colors.? I use a lot of water to wash to 'float' all the grit off the car first...then wax.
bottom liine --does waterless scratch the paint??

ajb (andy)

A friend of mine used one of these but I was dubious for this reason. I would be afraid to use it on black or any other dark color.

 

[GTdrummer]

I went to a seminar put on by Optimum one of the big sellers of waterless. I have used it on my DD when it was freezing out side etc but would not want to use it regularly . You have to be careful how you apply it and what motion you use. The detailers I talked to said it is good but they only use it in a pinch.

What I do love is foam guns.

 

[AJB]

Ford GT is Midnight Blue/white, ShelbyMustang is Black /Red, Thunderbird is Black, Harley is Red/Black. I will continue to use the ''water wash and rinse'' before any 'partially' dry contact is made with the paint surface...
So far I have no scratch or swirl marks in any paint... even in direct sunlight,,,,not sure how may 'Billions of Lumens' that equates to.....

andy (AJB)

 

[FBA]

Lot's!

 

[RALPHIE]

Nice to see the thread somewhat back on track...

 

[fjpikul]

I'm getting pretty upset with my Zaino. Seems like water spotting on the GT is a problem. Once you've got them, they don't want to come off.

 

[FBA]

If the paint is properly treated/cleaned/waxed etc...you should have no trouble with water spots. My GT's have none at all.

 

[fjpikul]

I've worked very hard to be proper, and I'm telling you, the Zaino gets waterspots like I've never seen before and they won't come off without using rubbing compound.

 

[2112]

http://www.crspotless.com/

Best answer for bad water. Even clears out my well water tho you have to replenish it more often than if it were deionizing municipal water.

 

[Specracer]

+1, but be sure to keep your eyes on the meter, as they claim once over 20ppm, will spot, and the numbers go up quick.

http://www.crspotless.com/

Best answer for bad water. Even clears out my well water tho you have to replenish it more often than if it were deionizing municipal water.

 

[fjpikul]

Yeah, that's fine for you guys that don't drive your cars or never get caught in a rainstorm or sprinkler system.

 

[2112]

Agreed. Up to 4-5ppm, You can hose down and walk away. Even in sunlight.

 

[Sinovac]

Frank,

I've used just about everything. The high priced stuff isn't any better than a product like Ice from Turtle wax when it comes to preventing water spots. I keep a bottle of Maguiars Quick Detailer in the car to remove hard water spots as soon as possible. I don't think there is any product that will prevent hard water from etching the finish if the car sits in direct sunlight.

 

[2112]

Have you tried a water de-ionizer? It is the bomb.

 

[twobjshelbys]

Frank,

I've used just about everything. The high priced stuff isn't any better than a product like Ice from Turtle wax when it comes to preventing water spots. I keep a bottle of Maguiars Quick Detailer in the car to remove hard water spots as soon as possible. I don't think there is any product that will prevent hard water from etching the finish if the car sits in direct sunlight.

I totally agree that there is no difference. I use Maguiars and Turtle Wax detailers interchangeably as well. The Maguiars or Mothers clay bar kit comes with their detailer, but when it runs out I just continue with Turtle Wax.

I like the Turtle wax "wax/polish" because it doesn't leave a residue on the plastic parts, and in fact, if you give your spoiler and front end two coats of the paste bugs will just wipe off.

 

[AJB]

Yes - I use them all interchangably..but now you have me worried. On my daily drivers (F-150 / Focus) I have lot of water spots from sprinkler systems , etc... I always thought the 'spot perimeter' was a 'raised edge' caused by the chemicals as the water dried.... IS IT true as stated that it is ACTUALLY AN ETCHING THAT HAD THINNED OUT (RATHER THAN RAISE UP) THE PERIMETER OF THE SPOT ??
I guess only a cross section under a micropscope can really tell .
Please comment. --any experts on this .
ajb (andy)

 

[MTV8]

I just started using the Meguiars waterless wash. I am keeping an eye on the black stripes and do not notice any signs of scratching. Seeing as how I used to spend a good half day for a full wash, this is much easier. Less time washing, more time driving.

 

[Sinovac]

Yes - I use them all interchangably..but now you have me worried. On my daily drivers (F-150 / Focus) I have lot of water spots from sprinkler systems , etc... I always thought the 'spot perimeter' was a 'raised edge' caused by the chemicals as the water dried.... IS IT true as stated that it is ACTUALLY AN ETCHING THAT HAD THINNED OUT (RATHER THAN RAISE UP) THE PERIMETER OF THE SPOT ??
I guess only a cross section under a micropscope can really tell .
Please comment. --any experts on this .
ajb (andy)

The minerals in hard water will actually etch the clear coat if exposed to the sun for too long. If the spots are not too bad, use a clay bar. If they are too far gone, you will need to polish them out. Water spotting caused by rain is simply the accumulation of dirt around the edges of the drops which will wipe off with any detail spray (because rain water is naturally distilled). The really expensive car wax "systems" remind me of the over priced crap the cosmetics industry pitches to women that we all laugh about. In my opinion, if someone pays more that $10-15 bucks for a bottle of any car care product, they are getting ripped off.

 

[Sinovac]

Found this you might find helpful:

http://www.1z-usa.com/How-To-Remove-Hard-Water-Spots-Quickly-and-Easily_df_39.html

You can substitute inexpensive products for theirs.

 

[Xcentric]

Am I the only guy who doesn't use wax? I've used Nu Finish for decades, and more recently added Cling for clean up after a drive.