Ahlman Engineering struts - track review


Wwabbit

GT Owner
Mar 21, 2012
1,259
Knoxville, TN
Janine and I had been in Europe for a couple of weeks, Nurburgring and SPA, (details in an upcoming post) and were heading back for a weekend at Road Atlanta. Before we left for Europe I ordered a set of Scott Ahlman's new 4-way adjustable struts for the Tungsten GT. Plan was to arrive from Belgium Wednesday evening, install Thursday and leave for Road Atlanta Friday. In the communications during our trip and after he had shipped the struts, Scott realized that since my car has butterfly doors some installation details may vary (the doors are connected to the top of the front strut mount), Scott decided he wanted to see the installation first hand - so he was driving 12 hrs to lend a hand. Also on the way to us, he would go by Kurt (Topshot) in Detroit, who had also ordered a set and was going with us to Road Atlanta. Where else and with what other car would you have one of it's chief designers show up at your house to help you turn a wrench?


We landed and drove to the designated rendezvous point to meet Scott, the local bar; best thing for jet lag or a long drive. From there we went to our place where we found a nice UPS delivery of Scott's new strut package - Christmas is early. Opening Scott's package was like lifting the lid on your first Apple product, just awesome. Damn those things are pretty. The workmanship of the product is superb, a beautiful addition to the GT. Like jewelry. Scott tried to explain some of the engineering concepts with his 4-way system, he even drew some nice intersecting curves and talked about spring rates, jounce bumpers and stuff. I of course nodded in complete understanding. The only thing I truly understood was that HE actually DOES understand it, as I found out later in the upcoming weekend.


This upgrade for me was not about putting on the latest cool mod or shiny part on my GT. My car has 5700 miles, I bought it with 200 and at least 3000 of that has been on a track somewhere. All agree the stock suspension has definite limitations for sport driving. As fine a job as the development team did with the FGT, they still were constrained by the need to develop a car that anyone could drive and enjoy. Ride comfort is a big thing for car companies and compromises are a part of the process. Tuning any car for track or race environments is a purposeful step and generally leads away from comfort and certain safety needs, so the faster or more aggressive we want our driving to be in this car, suspension tuning is one of the first things to review. I have a good feel for the car on stock suspension and had run into certain barriers in my experience with the car regarding roll and yaw on some tracks. I was in fact one day away from buying a system when I heard of Scott's plans to develop his set up. That was all I needed to hear. Scott has years of race suspension development experience in Indy and Champ cars and of course was the chassis engineer for the Ford GT. I knew this would be a good system.


The installation for the rear set took about 20 mins. Truthfully it's more work taking the tires on and off than it is replacing the strut. No remote reservoir, one nice simple beautiful package. Now if you don't have butterfly doors, the front's would be the same quick install - but of course I do. I love the butterfly doors, love love love. But the gas lift strut that operates the door is anchored at the top of the strut attach via a machined bracket that sits over the shock strut attach point. So to remove the shock strut, you must pull the door bracket and that requires removing the evil fender liner. I hate that thing, hate hate hate. A couple of months ago I had tried to pull one and gave up two days later. But here I was again, no way around it. There is a trick to it and even if you watch someone do it, you'll still not like it. But it does come out and about 20 mins later your new struts are ready to drive. Some pictures below. If you don't have butterfly doors, party on.


Scott had some ideas on the initial settings he thought would be best. First though we test drove the car before the install to get a feel for the car and to settle it to measure existing ride height. My car is lowered about 1" front / 3/4" rear. You can preset the ride height on the strut, but it's important to remeasure after a settling ride to verify. Scott preset the strut height based on my existing set up and what we decided would work for my driving style and desired alignment specs - lowering will effect camber so best to pre-plan. We came out within a 1/16" and the alignment is ideal for what I want. Easy. If you bought these, it would be good to know your existing alignment specs in case you were planning to change your ride height with this installation or if you wanted to vary some alignment. My final set up is actually pretty much factory specs.


All done. We went back out on the road and shook the car around good. I could feel certain very different characteristics in how the car behaved. I gave Scott some feedback and we planned a small tweak. As you can see in the pictures, the adjustments are easy to reach. You can make changes on the ground without removing tires. The fronts require only that you turn the wheel full one way so you can reach around to the strut, the rears are fully accessible under the clamshell. One click makes a big difference so don't go crazy. We were back on the road and the car felt flat and direct. Hugely different, I liked it. But we were just at normal in town traffic speeds. True testing was just a day away. Kurt rolled in so Scott hung around an extra day, I guess to help Kurt drink all my expensive liquor. Which they did.


On Friday, even though he faced a 12 hour drive home and was already a day late leaving Scott was still talking set up and working with Kurt on some adjustments we had learned from my set up. What a guy. He is very dedicated to making sure the system works the way you want it. The driver experience is very important to Scott, I felt like I had a race team behind me. Eventually we said goodbye to Scott and he pulled away behind the silence of his mostly electric car. Seemed odd to have a race engineer come by to set up cars with monstrous horsepower and then leave in a hybrid. If I wasn't in such a hurry to go to the track, I would have written a song about it. But it was time for us to leave too.


Saturday dawned clear blue and 80 deg at Road Atlanta. Steve Davison (Steve57) drove up from Texas to meet us. Awesome to have 3 FGT's together on a fun track and great weather. And Janine would keep us honest in her 911. Scott stayed in touch by wireless. First run was interesting. I had been driving a Lotus Cup and Radical for the past couple of weeks in Europe, so it took a moment to get used to a big heavy car again, but it was really different from before. First blush was the car was very aggressive, flat and extremely responsive. Turn ins were immediate with little perceivable body roll on the nose and the rear of the car felt even quicker. Maybe too quick for me, I'm not a pro driver. I reported to Scott I'd like to tone it down a notch. He gave me a new setting for the rears for the next session. Wow, what a change. The car became an athlete. An absolute athlete. The nose points with the first hint, stable and agile, the rear is compliant with no objection or mind of its own. I felt confident that I was in command of the car, not it or the track. Speeds went up and the times went down. Lap by lap I was falling in love with the car again. It was really amazing. The fronts as precise as it now was, I was really impressed with how this setting provided for such great feel of the rears. The GT deserves supreme respect in the oversteer department and at 700 hp I am always a bit careful coming out of turns with anything but positive camber. But now the car rotated like it had four wheel steering. Session after session the fun continued and the car performed as requested. Kurt will likely report on his experience on his own, so I won't put words in his mouth but I think his experience was similar. He was running a slightly different setting. I wanted to return to the first setting, more aggressive, but honestly I was having so much fun that I couldn't imagine it getting any better. The car could bomb into the braking zone with no hunting on the nose and the rear would follow through in the turn perfectly under any power regardless of how aggressive I was trail braking. It felt sound, solid. Although I know that in time I may move toward more aggression in the set up as I gain experience and more feel for the car, but now it's just pure fun. I think the beautiful thing too is that the Ahlman system is so tunable and Scott understands the car so well that we will end up with settings based on the track and driving desire.


Sunday was a ditto performance with weather, friends and fun. Overall my lap times went down about 10 seconds, some because my driving has improved since I was last here, but mainly because I now feel very confident in with the car's handling. I'm super impressed with the struts and even more so with Scott's dedication to making my driving experience the best possible. Thank you Scott, for your a great product, professional support and for the new car. All I can say is wow!



Front strut
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Beautifully appointed
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For butterfly doors when you release the gas strut you need to hand your door from something
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View of the butterfly door bracket on top of front strut with fender liner out
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Wwabbit

GT Owner
Mar 21, 2012
1,259
Knoxville, TN
Final product, with artist's signature...

rear strut.jpg
 

Cobrar

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Jun 24, 2006
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Metro Detroit
Thanks for the concise write-up from an owner perspective! Have to love Scott's dedication to your install and tuning!

A very nice looking product, the 4 way adjustables would really seem to be the cat's a$$ for the GT. I have had fantastic experience with Ohlins.

Looking forward to hearing from some of the other owners who installed Scott's dampers.
 

bonehead

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Aug 18, 2012
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Wow. That is indeed some pretty hardware. And thanks for the detailed write-up. Did you do a corner balance after you installed the struts?
 

Wwabbit

GT Owner
Mar 21, 2012
1,259
Knoxville, TN
Not corner balanced yet. We shoved the car into the trailer when the last bolt was tightened. Will work on those details as we move along in the set up.
 

dbk

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Jul 30, 2005
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That is awesome. Scott really put a ton of work into this package and it shows. And damn they look pretty! :cheers
 

Superfly

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Wows, that looks amazing. Great write up. Thanks
 

roketman

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Scott knows his shit !
All you have to do is talk to him .
He had me lost after how are you!
 

Indy GT

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We owners are very lucky to have dedicated individuals like Scott and Mark McGowan who helped Scott with development feedback during the design process. These guys know our cars, know what to do to strengthen a particular handling aspect, test and collect confirmation data on their upgrades. This all takes time and money but look not only at the pristine hardware but the first hand owners account of improvements to his car.

We are very lucky. Thanks Scott for your dedication!:thumbsup
 

topshot

GT Owner
Feb 6, 2012
280
Metro Detroit, MIchigan
I too order a set of shock from Scott, they arrived as planned and he drove 6 hours to help with the install, installing on my car takes about 20 min per shock, or faster if I wanted.. Just un bolt then re-bolt. After install drove car to settle (two people in car) checked ride height - adjust as required. The next day got to Johns house, Scott had informed me of an adjustment I should make, that he found out while driving Johns car. Then I was over served some expensive scotch by John after eating a wonderful meal prepared by Janine... next day off to Road Atlanta. the car drove incredible just point and shoot the car never turned so good, with much less body role, the rear stayed planted and rotated along with the front. I liked the car so much I made no adjustments and our lap time improved every session as the confidence built in the car. My car has a wing and a bigger front splitter AKA Stormcat Special and that was the only difference between Johns car and mine. Overall was a great experience working with Scott and can't thank him enough for the effort he put in. Now just looking for some more track days to do more testing...
 

MNJason

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May 14, 2010
2,097
San Diego
Scott, lets add this to our list of things to discuss at Road America.
 

sahlman

Ford GT Team Alumni
Jul 21, 2011
339
Verona, WI
Wow John! Quite the write up! Thank you for the great feedback and so glad that everything performed as intended and you are happy. It appears the RT-1 (Road and Track-1) was the right configuration for you of the four developed packages. It is so cool that my coil-over package helped you pick up a huge chunk of time at Road Atlanta.

These results are heavily due to a lot of hard great work with my partners including Ohlins USA, Mark McGowan, Savannah Company, Eibach Springs, Jeff Chrstos, Cayman Dynamics, SignCraft Digital (Not4N-Trent) and Jim Dunham. And my teammates include invaluable customer need input from Specracer (Andy), Roketman (Ron), DBK (Dave) and 2112 (Michael).

It was great to work with you and Kurt (my first two customers to install and run my coil-over system) to witness first-hand any challenges you guys might run into, help guide on setup and make sure it worked well with your butterfly doors.

Thank you to you guys and Janine for the hospitality (it sounds like I owe you some whiskey!). I look forward to the next visit and feedback from many fun track days ahead.

Ahhh, the Fusion Hybrid - great vehicle for the 1600 mile trek...except for Sync issues! Sync is awesome when it works!

Scott
 
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sahlman

Ford GT Team Alumni
Jul 21, 2011
339
Verona, WI
Kurt, Thank you for the feedback and post. It was invaluable working with you and John. And good fun. This project has been a great time for me and this is a great way to get started with you guys. Wishing you many happy track days ahead! Don't hesitate to call with questions.

Scott
 

sahlman

Ford GT Team Alumni
Jul 21, 2011
339
Verona, WI
Rex, Bonehead, Dave, Superfly, Ron and Bill,

Thank you much for the kudos. I enjoy this work a lot and it is cool to see the hardware out there on the track and performing so well. I am a "form And function" guy, so it has to have world class performance and be great looking. A truly engineered and crafted system. As noted, I can't get results of this level on my own, and have been fortunate to have some really strong teammates in this project.

Scott
 

andymlow

GT Owner
May 17, 2007
287
Sarasota, FL
Is anyone at liberty to discuss the cost of these struts?
 

sahlman

Ford GT Team Alumni
Jul 21, 2011
339
Verona, WI
Scott, lets add this to our list of things to discuss at Road America.
Sounds good Jason. Looking forward to the races.

Scott
 

sahlman

Ford GT Team Alumni
Jul 21, 2011
339
Verona, WI
Is anyone at liberty to discuss the cost of these struts?

I will be posting details including pricing and options on my web site late this week (in progress). check for more information late this week at www.AhlmanEng.com.

In the meantime:
The two-way shocks without springs are $5800 for a set of 4 (low speed compression and low speed rebound adjustment)

The four-way shocks without springs are $7800 for a set of 4 (low and high speed compression and low and high speed rebound adjustment)

I have four installed spring packages which add ~$500 to $800 to the shock price depending on the package and custom colors.

John and Kurt have the 4-way adjustable shocks so they can adjust springs down the road and I can give them shock adjustments accordingly, otherwise the shock should be re-valved for any significant spring change (50 lb/in or more) on two-way shocks.

I did an initial 10 set run and have 6 sets sold at the moment. Feel free to PM me for more information.

Scott
 

PL510*Jeff

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Nice write up and photo's. Luv it when it all comes together so nicely.

August- right Scott. Even if I don't go too , might as well look good!
 

sahlman

Ford GT Team Alumni
Jul 21, 2011
339
Verona, WI
August- right Scott. Even if I don't go too , might as well look good!

For sure Jeff. They will be ready on the shelf for you in about 3 weeks...with Ford Racing Blue springs!

They will look great and work great for you- the ride is a little better than stock on stock spring rates.

Thank you much for your order.

Scott
 

Specracer

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I have been a fly on the wall through Scotts development. He has put a TON of time into this project. He has had a ball doing it. His knowledge and expertise is unreal. Especially targeted at our cars that he was so involved with.

Way to go bud! Great work!