Help on pricing for a Safir GT40

CincyKen · Dec 23, 2013

I have been a GT owner since 2006. I love the car and want to keep it stock. I have been wanting to get a Safir
GT40 to vintage race. Can anyone tell me the value of these continuation cars? Anyone know of one for sale here in the USA?
Thank you in advance for your efforts on my behalf.

Sinovac · Dec 23, 2013

The last Safir Engineering car I saw listed for sale was a couple years ago for about $400k.

twobjshelbys · Dec 23, 2013

Why a safir? They are awesome but for vintage racing where you stand a greater than zero chance of something happening and hive the price of safirs why not a superformance? A member here changed from a Ford gt to a spf GT40 and I have to admit it is one sweet machine and as far as I know qualifies for vintage racing

djs · Dec 23, 2013

http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ford/gt-40/1986/148159
Here's a gem for about$330,000. But, Tony's right. Buy a SPF, even the "R" version for probably 1/3 the $$. Outside the provenance, if there is such a thing on a continuation, there's little reason not to buy the SPF. Remember, the Safir cars are 30 years old too.

Xcentric · Dec 23, 2013

I'd love to be able to say I had Lord Beaverbrook's car. That would be worth a few Quid.

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Sinovac · Dec 24, 2013

djs said:
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ford/gt-40/1986/148159
Here's a gem for about $330.000.

Where did you find the $330,000 price? I didn't see it in the advertisement.

djs · Dec 24, 2013

This listing shows an asking price of £200,000:

http://classiccars.com/listings/find/all-years/ford/gt40

Sinovac · Dec 24, 2013

Thank you. I see the listing is dated November 2011. I wonder if the car has found a permanent home.

Here is a thread on gt40s.com which explains some of the features of the Safir Engineering GT40s generally and the Beaverbrook car in particular:

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/original-gt40s/35855-p1119-anyone.html

Here is an excerpt from Ronnie Spain's book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=5S...QWmhoHQDQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false

Wwabbit · Dec 24, 2013

Superformance GT40's also are continuation chassis, and they do qualify for vintage racing. Parts are the same and are interchangeable with the original GT40. The standard car can go on the street, the R is track only.

djs · Dec 24, 2013

330,000 for a MkV is a relative steal, assuming the car is right. The last two I've seen sell in the U.S. were around $400,000:
http://findyourclassiccar.com/2011/12/11/1980-ford-gt40-mark-v-lightweight/

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=1314&aid=53

djs · Dec 24, 2013

Here's another MkV, but this one might be a handful. It has the power of a pulley/tune GT, but weighs bout 1500 lbs less.

http://gt40photos.co.uk/page69.html

djs · Oct 10, 2016

Sold last week for about $257,000 at time of sale, a relative bargain for a car like this:

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23595/lot/178/

Sinovac · Oct 10, 2016

djs said:
Sold last week for about $257,000 at time of sale, a relative bargain for a car like this:

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23595/lot/178/

For sure. I would've happily paid that for the car

GT35065 · Oct 10, 2016

Last spring I was in Naples visiting a friend. I was excited that Gulf Coast Motorworks (Superformance dealer) had a GT40 Markl in stock in the Gulf colors. I think it is still there. I thought I always wanted to own one of these some day. I went in and tried to sit in the car, and I couldn't fit in it. I asked, "So what do you do, drive with the door open?" The salesman laughed and said I didn't look too comfy. He said they could cut the foam down in the seat which they have done for taller drivers. The seat didn't seem that thick to me. Anyway, I am 6' 2" and there was no way I could get comfortable in this car. I would advise sitting in one before ever purchasing one. Loved the car otherwise.

djs · Oct 10, 2016

FWIW, I know of 2 Mk Vs in Ohio, one not even completed, for $350,000 (the incomplete car will be finished for that price), but $250,000 & change? I would've been tempted to import that car.

Sinovac · Oct 10, 2016

GT35065 said:
Last spring I was in Naples visiting a friend. I was excited that Gulf Coast Motorworks (Superformance dealer) had a GT40 Markl in stock in the Gulf colors. I think it is still there. I thought I always wanted to own one of these some day. I went in and tried to sit in the car, and I couldn't fit in it. I asked, "So what do you do, drive with the door open?" The salesman laughed and said I didn't look too comfy. He said they could cut the foam down in the seat which they have done for taller drivers. The seat didn't seem that thick to me. Anyway, I am 6' 2" and there was no way I could get comfortable in this car. I would advise sitting in one before ever purchasing one. Loved the car otherwise.

I'm much shorter than you Rick and it's a tight fit even for me. Love 'em though.

nautoncall · Oct 10, 2016

GT35065 said:
Last spring I was in Naples visiting a friend. I was excited that Gulf Coast Motorworks (Superformance dealer) had a GT40 Markl in stock in the Gulf colors. I think it is still there. I thought I always wanted to own one of these some day. I went in and tried to sit in the car, and I couldn't fit in it. I asked, "So what do you do, drive with the door open?" The salesman laughed and said I didn't look too comfy. He said they could cut the foam down in the seat which they have done for taller drivers. The seat didn't seem that thick to me. Anyway, I am 6' 2" and there was no way I could get comfortable in this car. I would advise sitting in one before ever purchasing one. Loved the car otherwise.

I talked to the dealer about that exact car. If its the one I was inquiring about, RHD with Right hand sill shifter. Those are the specs I would want in that car. On my wish list.

Xcentric · Oct 10, 2016

Lord Beaverbrook's donnybrook.

FelixIbizaSwitzerland · Nov 3, 2016

GT35065 said:
Last spring I was in Naples visiting a friend. I was excited that Gulf Coast Motorworks (Superformance dealer) had a GT40 Markl in stock in the Gulf colors. I think it is still there. I thought I always wanted to own one of these some day. I went in and tried to sit in the car, and I couldn't fit in it. I asked, "So what do you do, drive with the door open?" The salesman laughed and said I didn't look too comfy. He said they could cut the foam down in the seat which they have done for taller drivers. The seat didn't seem that thick to me. Anyway, I am 6' 2" and there was no way I could get comfortable in this car. I would advise sitting in one before ever purchasing one. Loved the car otherwise.

Hello, I am 187 cms, and with a fullface open Helmet i sat in a GT 40 from a swiss collector, but the car had the so called "Gurney-Bubble" in the roofpart of the right side drivers door.
Remember please, that Dan Gurney was 192 cm tall when he was competing in the sixties with these GT 40-ies, and i am not deadsure, A.J. Foyt was quite tall as well and sat in those 7-Litre GT 40 as well in the Le Mans 24 hrs race at that specific year !!

with fordistic greetings

Felix

at time in Spain:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

STORMCAT · Dec 9, 2016

FelixIbizaSwitzerland said:
Hello, I am 187 cms, and with a fullface open Helmet i sat in a GT 40 from a swiss collector, but the car had the so called "Gurney-Bubble" in the roofpart of the right side drivers door.
Remember please, that Dan Gurney was 192 cm tall when he was competing in the sixties with these GT 40-ies, and i am not deadsure, A.J. Foyt was quite tall as well and sat in those 7-Litre GT 40 as well in the Le Mans 24 hrs race at that specific year !!

with fordistic greetings

Felix

at time in Spain:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

For the record they also beat down the floor pan are at the seat base for Dan to gain some extra head clearance space

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