Light Weight Wheel Offer


STORMCAT

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I have spent lot of time chasing wheels for the GT. If you have looked for wheels you know it is hard to find wheels that are lighter than the Stock 10 spoke BBS wheels. Now that I have to contend with the large Carbon Ceramic brakes up front I have been forced to find a light 19" front wheel.

After years and months of searching I have teamed up with a wheel US wheel Mfg. I meet a SEMA. They have designed some Forged Aluminum wheels just for the GT. For maximum strength and weight savings It will be a web / mesh style wheel that is a little more contemporary than the stock wheel. The mesh goes to the face and the have a nice concave affect. ( more noticeable in the rear)

The new wheels are Front : 19 x 9 + 50 mm offset = 17.5 lbs + or - 100 gms Est. weight ( Anodized finish) Rear : 19 x 11.5 + 40 mm offset = 19.66 lbs + or - 100 gms Est. weight ( Anodized finish) .

These are extremely light !! There will be a small increase for paint or powder coat. ( adds approx 200 gms) They offer an Anodized finish which adds basically no weight. The weigh saving here with the right tire choice is almost as high at doing CC brake rotor and has a more of an effect if you choose the lowest weight tire available.

For Reference the 10 spoke BBS wheels are Front 18 x 9 @ 20.44 lbs and Rear 19 x 11.5 @ 25.352. +or- depending on if the wheels have been painted

There are some great 19" front tires available at the same weight or less weight than the stock 18" tire.

These wheels and new tires are going to compliment my CC brake conversion. If someone can how me a complete lower rotational mass package I would love to see it...

Fear not these are made by a USA company that produces military spec and aviation wheels. The make the wheels for Gembala and line of light weight Porsche wheels. The GT wheels will have a TUV Homologation Compliant Guaranteed. With their Porsche experience the were able to utilize the same weight savings design designed around the bias similarities of the Porsches and the Ford GT. I guess going to SEMA has paid off !!

I discussed with them the Extreme Ford GT we have running around. They said 1400 HP + and 260 MPH no problem. They'd be more concerned about the tires : )

To be honest I would have loved to keep this performance advantage here to myself..
I need to commit to five sets as a minimum run. I will take 2 sets maybe 3 so I am looking to move two or three sets to outside parties. Or I need to buy a few more GT's !! I want to offer these to GT owners here who are looking for the lowest rotational mass package they can find.

I plan to finalize the order in the coming days. It will be about 4 weeks from that date. Available colors are: Matte Black, Satin Black, Satin Charcoal, Matte Charcoal, Brushed/Clear, Brilliant silver. If you want a different color, They can probably find it. I am getting the last details on the anodized colors. They may be an up charge for a custom color not listed above.

These are very light weight wheels that are in the same weight region as the Carbon Fiber wheels ( HRE stated to me 17 lbs Front 19 lbs rear for their CF wheels) that are no longer available. These are half the cost as CF wheels. Email me if you are interested. These are the CAD drawings of the new front wheels .

Update 6/17/10 :
The Real wheels are here and they are a fine piece of machined craftsmanship! Weights are in the specified range. The Matte anodized finished is spectacular!! The finish is uniform and flawless. I would chose this over painted and powder coat any day !! The anodizing completely seals the wheel surface inside and out.

There is one set left from the first manufacturing run. A local GT owner saw the wheels in the box and is 90% sure he wants them. If others want a set please email me so we can see about producing another run.
 

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STORMCAT

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First let me say the wheels look great on the car !! The new brakes are on and I tried two different looks. The left side is using the Bridgestone Enzo tires and the Stock center hub caps. The right side is my aggressive street / track day set up. Hoosier R6 in the rear and some Mich PS Cups in the front. These were taken late yesterday around 8:00 PM so the lighting was a little low. The wheels come standard with a billet cover that is held in place by three screws. The stock caps will fit .
 

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soroush

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very cool project brian..
 

Empty Pockets

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'Especially like the sculpting where the spokes meet the rim. :thumbsup :cheers
 

Superfly

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Looking good Stormy. I needs me another GT so I can justify another set of wheels. :wink

Hey Brian, BTW, I'm heading down to FLA next week. You gonna be anywhere near Jason's shop?
 

STORMCAT

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Looking good Stormy. I needs me another GT so I can justify another set of wheels. :wink

Hey Brian, BTW, I'm heading down to FLA next week. You gonna be anywhere near Jason's shop?

Hey Pro,
I am on the East Coast about 2.5 hours away. I do need to run up to Tampa so maybe we can coordinate a meet. PM me know your exact travel plans
 

STORMCAT

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very cool project brian..


Thanks Soroush.. lots of research time !!

'Especially like the sculpting where the spokes meet the rim. :thumbsup :cheers

Me too EP !! :biggrin
 

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Brian - glad SEMA paid off. I am not interested in more wheels at this time, but if these are designed / developed and produced by HRE , I can certainly give them high marks. We used HRE exclusively on our DevonGTX - both the 6 lug and the final design Center-locks. Justin set records at Laguna Seca and WillowSprings on the HRE Wheels..good product
AJB (andy)
 

Heffner Performance

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That's a great looking wheel, Brian. What would be the major differences between what you are going to be offering and the HRE P40 Monoblok?
 

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Nardo GT

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Will 16lbs less total make that big of a difference? They are very nice wheels but look very similar to the stock BBS wheels to me. I was at the Texas Mile and noticed a lot of entries were concerned about weight and then I saw some of the drivers were pretty good size ole boys.:confused I am on the slender side ("skinny" in some circles) and had a miraculous thought about the driver losing a few pounds instead of cutting structural areas of the car apart. Apparently my body is made for speed!:wink

I definitely like the optional BBS wheels over the standard "Taurus/Windstar" lookalikes. I can say that as I have the standard wheels and calipers on my silver 05. Your wheel design is excellent!:thumbsup
 
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STORMCAT

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That's a great looking wheel, Brian. What would be the major differences between what you are going to be offering and the HRE P40 Monoblok?

Hey Jason. I looked at these wheels. Have HRE give you the weights in writing. and I would guess they are 4 to 5 lb heavier per wheel. (2) reputable people at HRE told me there lightest wheel was a two piece and they 22-23 lb range for fronts and 24 to 26 lbs for the rears. They did not give me any weights on the P40's. Based on what they told me the spread would be higher. Hey if you can show me a lighter wheel that is available I would but it in a minute !! ( This does not include Forged Magnesium which are about $12 K )

As a side note I have worked thru some deals and specification on some other wheels based on their stated weights and what the sales people would tell me. I asked them to put the target weights in writing plus or minus a reasonable amount. After they received the deposit they came back and said well they are going to be heavier .. bla ,bla , bla,

This is a high end wheel to work with the GT dynamics . the P40 looks heavier in the hub and spoke area which it may need to fit a wider variety of cars. A Vette or a viper has more weight on the front end . As stated this company does a lot or rear engine cars the took all of the GT data and did all of the FEA and whatever they do compile the data and product the strongest lightest wheel for the application
 
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STORMCAT

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Will 16lbs less total make that big of a difference? They are very nice wheels but look very similar to the stock BBS wheels to me. I was at the Texas Mile and noticed a lot of entries were concerned about weight and then I saw some of the drivers were pretty good size ole boys.:confused I am on the slender side ("skinny" in some circles) and had a miraculous thought about the driver losing a few pounds instead of cutting structural areas of the car apart. Apparently my body is made for speed!:wink

I definitely like the optional BBS wheels over the standard "Taurus/Windstar" lookalikes. I can say that as I have the standard wheels and calipers on my silver 05. Your wheel design is excellent!:thumbsup

According to people in the rotation mass business it carries a factor of about 6 to 1. i.e. Save 1 pound on a rotating part = 6 lbs of static weight. This varies by component and it's relationship to the center of rotation. One of the major appeals of CC brake is the reduction of rotational mass.
 

BlackICE

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Brian, why not make the rears 12" or 12.5" if possible. That would fit the Bridgestones better. 12" would also work with the GY. 12.5" or even 13" would be a much better fit for the Bridgestones.

If it is possible and you decide to do a 12.5 or 13" rim, PM me with more details.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE050A+Scuderia
 

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Hey Jason. I looked at these wheels. Have HRE give you the weights in writting. and I would guess they are 4 to 5lb heavier per wheel. (2) reputable people at HRE told me there lightest wheel was a two piece and they 22-23 lb range for fronts and 24 to 26 lbs for the rears. They did give me any weights on the P40's. Based on what they told me ( the two piece being lighter ) the spread would be higher on the P 40. Hey if you can show me a lighter wheel that is available I would but it in a minute !! ( This does not include Forged Magnesium which are about $12 K )

Thanks, Brian. That is a substantial difference. I'll have to break out the scales next time we get some in here.
 

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Thanks, Brian. That is a substantial difference. I'll have to break out the scales next time we get some in here.

I am getting good with the scales !! Just bought a $ 400 ... measure to the gram scale for weighing brake rotors and brake parts !! :biggrin
 

STORMCAT

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Brian, why not make the rears 12" or 12.5" if possible. That would fit the Bridgestones better. 12" would also work with the GY. 12.5" or even 13" would be a much better fit for the Bridgestones.

If it is possible and you decide to do a 12.5 or 13" rim, PM me with more details.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE050A+Scuderia

The Scudies will work and do work fine on the 11.5 " as listed. The goal was ultra light. Wider is heavier. The Hoosier work great on the 11.5" wheels . On another note you can now run the matching front 19" Scudie tire it is real close to the stock size and you can brag that you run the same tires as the Enzo and FXX !! :biggrin
 

kumar

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Tell us more about the brake conversion.

Does someone sell a "kit" or are you doing it yourself?
 

BlackICE

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The Scudies will work and do work fine on the 11.5 " as listed. The goal was ultra light. Wider is heavier. The Hoosier work great on the 11.5" wheels . On another note you can now run the matching front 19" Scudie tire it is real close to the stock size and you can brag that you run the same tires as the Enzo and FXX !! :biggrin

Yes, but the Scudie would work much better with a wider rim. Hoosiers can would also work well with a 12". 11.5" is the minimum width spec. for the Scudie. It is speced for a 11.5 to a 13.5" rims. The outer 1" on both sides of the Scudie never touch the ground and the sidewalls probably flex more than desired.

The weight difference wouldn't be that big since it would add a ring of 1/2" of metal in an area with the thinness cross section.
 
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nota4re

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Hi Brian,

As the only thing being shown at the moment are CAD models, I assume that the final weights are also being estimated by CAD. For sure, everyone wants to make a lighter wheel but there is typically a trade-off between weight and wheel strength. Do we have any basis to make a comparison between the strength of this wheel compared to stock, for example?
 

Mullet

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Can you make them in carbon fiber? :)